Well, my first "fancy coil" in a long time

[conanthewarrior]

Hi everyone, as you all know I always just make plain roundwire coils as these seem to do the job for me, but last night I fancied trying something different, so thought why not try some 26G SS316L parallel twisted wire?

I got a long length of wire, and looped it through the handle of a mug, got some pliers to hold the two ends of the wire at the other end, pulled it tight, and got twisting. I twisted until the twist was tight, and any more twists would make the wire start to kink so stopped there.

I made a 6 Wrap, 2.5MM ID single coil which comes in at 0.23 Ohms in the Vector, and used it on the Kindred V2 mech mod.

I have to say, I am impressed. It's giving a warmer vape compared to my single strand wire builds, and producing a fair bit more vapour.

The flavour seems better, but I believe this is down to it being a warmer vape which is bringing out more notes of flavour.

For me this is more faffing around compared to making a standard roundwire coil, but it will be what I use for the Aspire Kumo that is turning up tomorrow.

I know it isn't really a fancy coil but it is the most effort I have put into a coil in a long time, and it was worth it. It has got me interested in claptons and other beefier coils now, but a simple twisted wire is well worth making if you fancy something different with a bit more surface area and lower resistance.

 

[MTB Vaper]

I still sometimes do twists, but I use pliers and a cordless drill. with thinner wire you can spin till it snaps at one end gives a very tight twist.
With N80 you can get pretty rowdy crackly build.

 

[conanthewarrior]

I still sometimes do twists, but I use pliers and a cordless drill. with thinner wire you can spin till it snaps at one end gives a very tight twist.
With N80 you can get pretty rowdy crackly build.

Unfortunately I don't have a cordless drill anymore, so had to use the loop through a mug handle method, hold it with pliers like you do but instead of using the drill keep turning the cup over with my right hand. Eventually it becomes so tight it either snaps, or starts to kink the wire slightly.
Once I was at that stage I clipped the ends and made a few coils.
Even with the SS316L it is pretty rowdy and crackly, a proper warm vape that is really bringing out the cream and vanilla flavours in my DIY juice.

Where I like it so much I am going to use a twisted build for my Aspire Kumo which according to tracking is arriving tomorrow morning, not sure wether to go with a 2.5MM or 3MM ID as that RDTA can take some pretty big coils.

 

[MTB Vaper]

The Kumo is a condensed chamber I wouldn't go to big.

 

[conanthewarrior]

The Kumo is a condensed chamber I wouldn't go to big.

So do you think 2.5MM or 3MM would be best? I will obviously experiment myself but advice is much appreciated.

 

[monstermash]

It’s been a fair few years since I did that beforei got lazy and bought pre made fancy coils but the twisteroo with a mug was done many times before claptons with a drill, definitely works well!!

 

[conanthewarrior]

Well I ended up using a 3MM ID coil, 26G SS316L twisted, 6 wraps came out at 0.28 Ohms, giving a lovely vape.

 

[MTB Vaper]

So do you think 2.5MM or 3MM would be best? I will obviously experiment myself but advice is much appreciated.

Not sure if I'm honest, only ever used 3mm fused Claptons 28x2/38 so pretty low mass. Currently vaping a donut juice at 45w. I lift the coil up so if I put a tiny Allen key through the airflow it hits the bottom of the coil, this helps the air to go under the coil and wrap around the opposite side of the coil.

 

[conanthewarrior]

Not sure if I'm honest, only ever used 3mm fused Claptons 28x2/38 so pretty low mass. Currently vaping a donut juice at 45w. I lift the coil up so if I put a tiny Allen key through the airflow it hits the bottom of the coil, this helps the air to go under the coil and wrap around the opposite side of the coil.

I went with a 3MM ID coil which is likely the biggest I would go, twisted 26G 6 wrap coming in at 0.28 Ohms. Flavour is amazing, also produces a lot of vapour for a slightly restricted DTL hit. 40W with TC at 230C seems to be giving a nice warm vape.
The 3MM coil gives a slightly restricted DTL coil, if I used a 2.5MM coil where it is a reduced chamber does this mean it would make the tank more airy where the coil and cotton isn't mostly filling the chamber?
I am a bit lost with what you mean by putting a tiny allen key through the airflow, do you mean you put this through the top cap, one of the holes and use it to lift up the coil from the deck?
I think I have the coil at the right level as taste and vapour is fantastic, but am always willing to experiment to get the bets possible vape from my gear so would like to try out this tip once I know exactly what you mean to make sure my coil is dead on the right spot.

 

[Crispycritters]

I went with a 3MM ID coil which is likely the biggest I would go, twisted 26G 6 wrap coming in at 0.28 Ohms. Flavour is amazing, also produces a lot of vapour for a slightly restricted DTL hit. 40W with TC at 230C seems to be giving a nice warm vape.
The 3MM coil gives a slightly restricted DTL coil, if I used a 2.5MM coil where it is a reduced chamber does this mean it would make the tank more airy where the coil and cotton isn't mostly filling the chamber?
I am a bit lost with what you mean by putting a tiny allen key through the airflow, do you mean you put this through the top cap, one of the holes and use it to lift up the coil from the deck?
I think I have the coil at the right level as taste and vapour is fantastic, but am always willing to experiment to get the bets possible vape from my gear so would like to try out this tip once I know exactly what you mean to make sure my coil is dead on the right spot.

If you have a side airflow atty where you can actually see the coil my preference is to position the coil so you can see the bottom half of the coil rather than positioning it so you are looking at the centre. When you inhale the air will be pulled up towards your gob and will hit the bottom and sides of the coil automatically. Positioning the coil low so it is almost touching the deck is generally a mistake as the incoming air may just hit the top of the coil and miss the bottom and sides completely.

I'm probably talking crap - but positioning the coil higher than central to the incoming airflow always seems to give better results.

Generally a smaller diameter coil will give an airier vape as there will be less restriction, not necessarily better or worse results - it is entirely down to your personal preference.