What Devices Should We See More Of?

[Simon G]

I think that the difficulty in making a tank/rebuildable for us MtL types is that everyone has a different interpretation of MtL.

I know you are a fan of the Siren and the Corolla. I find the Siren a bit too loose and I am yet to try the corolla (which I really should put a build in this weekend).

For the cloudy types it is simple. Massive deck for twisted, stapled tiger Clapton shark coils with airflow the size of the channel tunnel and you will sell tanks.

The stock coil option for MtL is worth exploring. Surely there has to be something to topple the nautilus from its perch.

I agree the siren is too loose, I vape it on the smallest setting which is not usual for me with a MTL tank (and often the opposite)

The corolla is still my favourite tank, if I could only use one thing it would be that.

the only improvement in stock coil I've had are my Kabuki's and my Vika Fantasy but they both use Nautilus coils, so any imporvement is more about the look and use, they don't offer much difference in the way of flavour or airflow. (other than being able to have a bit more)

 

[JustDave]

I agree the siren is too loose, I vape it on the smallest setting which is not usual for me with a MTL tank (and often the opposite)

The corolla is still my favourite tank, if I could only use one thing it would be that.

the only improvement in stock coil I've had are my Kabuki's and my Vika Fantasy but they both use Nautilus coils, so any imporvement is more about the look and use, they don't offer much difference in the way of flavour or airflow. (other than being able to have a bit more)

Possibly a bad example [emoji23]

I just see so many alleged MtL tanks that are too open on their lowest setting. Rose, Recent Kayfuns (yet to try the prime) and the list goes on.

The Berserker is the best I have seen in recent times as it does what it is intended to do, but it would be nice to have more options.

I tend not to buy clones. Nothing against them as such, but I find that they aren’t always that reflective of the original. Not gonna drop the cash on an original Skyline etc though.

Interested in trying the Dvarw with the MtL set up though. Not in the realms of super expensive but still close enough to a ton to make me happy to wait for a used one to turn up.

 

[TECC]

There's some really great suggestions here. MTL rebuildables seem to be a popular choice too! I think that we could eventually see a change back to more simple and effective tanks that strip away a lot of the 'extras' in favour of something that does what it says on the tin.

 

[eyeball kid]

There's some really great suggestions here. MTL rebuildables seem to be a popular choice too! I think that we could eventually see a change back to more simple and effective tanks that strip away a lot of the 'extras' in favour of something that does what it says on the tin.

I think mtl will always have a following (myself included) especially with new vapers but the issue is most of the liquids in my local vape shops are aimed at dtl. If you dtl they have a wall of colourful liquids with colourful labels and exciting names and blends. If you mtl you get the tray from under the counter with basic label bottles.
Nice if happened but with more and more starter pens arriving as sub ohm set ups I'm not really sure.

 

[TECC]

I think mtl will always have a following (myself included) especially with new vapers but the issue is most of the liquids in my local vape shops are aimed at dtl. If you dtl they have a wall of colourful liquids with colourful labels and exciting names and blends. If you mtl you get the tray from under the counter with basic label bottles.
Nice if happened but with more and more starter pens arriving as sub ohm set ups I'm not really sure.

I agree this seems to be the norm now, however we have always provided a variety of liquids that MTL vapers can use as well. Some good 70/30 PG:VG are available in 16mg. A lot of new vapers come to our site so it's good to have a stronger, more satisfying e-liquid when starting out, as well as for existing MTL vapers like yourself. I think there just needs to be a balance, one that caters equally to both DL and MTL vapers.

 

[eyeball kid]

I agree this seems to be the norm now, however we have always provided a variety of liquids that MTL vapers can use as well. Some good 70/30 PG:VG are available in 16mg. A lot of new vapers come to our site so it's good to have a stronger, more satisfying e-liquid when starting out, as well as for existing MTL vapers like yourself. I think there just needs to be a balance, one that caters equally to both DL and MTL vapers.

We've talked on this matter a lot as it's a constant question from New vapers as to why their coil is burning out. It always ends with the answer that they've been recommended a max vg liquid for their ets, ce 4 or nautilus ect.
Better knowledge of coil compatibility in vape shops and a universal viscosity rating on all eliquid would be the best thing that could happen.
Also more shops stocking quality mtl liquids like manabush, Digby' s ect.

 

[eyeball kid]

We've talked on this matter a lot as it's a constant question from New vapers as to why their coil is burning out. It always ends with the answer that they've been recommended a max vg liquid for their ets, ce 4 or nautilus ect.
Better knowledge of coil compatibility in vape shops and a universal viscosity rating on all eliquid would be the best thing that could happen.
Also more shops stocking quality mtl liquids like manabush, Digby' s ect.

I will add not just the pg/vg level as we all know not all vg is equal. Many US juices use aqueous vg in their max vg juice. A proper viscosity rating with coils rated for use within that scale.
Full on max vg juice isn't going to work well in any current stock coil tank for very long.

 

[TECC]

I will add not just the pg/vg level as we all know not all vg is equal. Many US juices use aqueous vg in their max vg juice. A proper viscosity rating with coils rated for use within that scale.
Full on max vg juice isn't going to work well in any current stock coil tank for very long.

Yes having a universal chart for e-liquid is definitely something to bear in mind when new ones come out. We do use Aqueous Glycerine in all our own brand e-liquids, so even the 75/25 VG/PG mixes can be used in a starter kit without any issues. The last thing anyone wants as a new vaper is to experience all the downsides within the first day, so having thinner liquids does help to alleviate the issue.

 

[eyeball kid]

Yes having a universal chart for e-liquid is definitely something to bear in mind when new ones come out. We do use Aqueous Glycerine in all our own brand e-liquids, so even the 75/25 VG/PG mixes can be used in a starter kit without any issues. The last thing anyone wants as a new vaper is to experience all the downsides within the first day, so having thinner liquids does help to alleviate the issue.

Excellent. Well if that was more widely known that would be extremely usefull.
At the moment we have the very rough guide of 60/40vg/pg and under for small coil devices which immediately removes your liquid but actually yours would be fine. Currently it's very confusing.
Although vaping take up numbers bare rising I wouldn't mind betting success rates as a percentage have dropped due to liquid to coil confusion.

 

[eyeball kid]

Excellent. Well if that was more widely known that would be extremely usefull.
At the moment we have the very rough guide of 60/40vg/pg and under for small coil devices which immediately removes your liquid but actually yours would be fine. Currently it's very confusing.
Although vaping take up numbers bare rising I wouldn't mind betting success rates as a percentage have dropped due to liquid to coil confusion.

There's so many accurate ways to measure absolute viscosity now. It would be nice if this was something done within the tpd measures too add value to the process for customers and for end customer.