What's going on with the ELiquid Market?

[zouzounaki]

must be true then! the grower would not lie!

Well why would the grower lie, if the retailer is exploiting him for his coffee? That surely would
make no sense. It may be that you have conspiratorial tendencies as well, it seems. Have you not heard of direct trade ?

 

[Phil M]

Well why would the grower lie, if the retailer is exploited by him? That surely would
make no sense. It may be that you have conspiratorial tendencies as well, it seems.

if that even was the grower! some local chucked a couple of quid. I don't drink coffee so I'm making this up as I go along. I do find it interesting that people base there facts on nonsense, I don't bother with facts

 

[zouzounaki]

if that even was the grower! some local chucked a couple of quid. I don't drink coffee so I'm making this up as I go along. I do find it interesting that people base there facts on nonsense, I don't bother with facts

I find it interesting that you base your arguments on nonsense. Your rationale in this discussion is that we shouldn’t believe anything and assume that everything is a lie. Fair enough that’s up to you but ignoring reality and common n sense won’t get you very far. Or maybe you’re just trying to be a contrarian but not succeeding very well. x

 

[Phil M]

I find it interesting that you base your arguments on nonsense. Your rationale in this discussion is that we shouldn’t believe anything and assume that everything is a lie. Fair enough that’s up to you but ignoring reality and common n sense won’t get you very far. Or maybe you’re just trying to be a contrarian but not succeeding very well. x

no that's exactly my point, you tell me a fact, ill tell you an opposite fact, are they both facts? are neither facts? is the cat alive? dead? or both? as Diogenes said, " One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings "

 

[Phil M]

I find it interesting that you base your arguments on nonsense. Your rationale in this discussion is that we shouldn’t believe anything and assume that everything is a lie. Fair enough that’s up to you but ignoring reality and common n sense won’t get you very far. Or maybe you’re just trying to be a contrarian but not succeeding very well. x

you live your life based on propaganda, ill base mine on reality and truth

 

[zouzounaki]

You are on the slippery slope towards delusion. Some things just are facts. You can contradict them if you want, but all that will mean is that what you are saying is wrong. To be good at being a contrarian, you have to be convincing. Whether or not you believe what you’re saying.

 

[Simon G]

What i have noticed is that I am still using juice that I have been vaping for years, nothing new has hit the spot for me. I mainly vape tobacco flavours, and I try new juices but never seem to put another order in, just back to my old faith fulls.

Black Mamba is a new honey tobacco from re-juiced, it's very good and priced well.

Also the indigene range from Manabush/Druid's Brew is excellent ..... if you don't mind buying piss taking overpriced scam juice.

There's nothing wrong with sticking to what you know and enjoy though, I do 90% of the time but it's nice to try something new now and again.

 

[zouzounaki]

Black Mamba is a new honey tobacco from re-juiced, it's very good and priced well.

Also the indigene range from Manabush/Druid's Brew is excellent ..... if you don't mind buying piss taking overpriced scam juice.

There's nothing wrong with sticking to what you know and enjoy though, I do 90% of the time but it's nice to try something new now and again.

I’m waiting on a concentrate allied black mamba from best cig liquid. Do you think it might be the same stuff?

 

[eightbitraptor]

no that's exactly my point, you tell me a fact, ill tell you an opposite fact, are they both facts? are neither facts? is the cat alive? dead? or both? as Diogenes said, " One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings "

Technically a fact is provable and measurable by identifying the null hypothesis and disproving it. So if you have 2 diametrically opposed "facts" then one of the other is not a fact, but is in fact bullshit reckons.

 

[Phil M]

You are on the slippery slope towards delusion. Some things just are facts. You can contradict them if you want, but all that will mean is that what you are saying is wrong. To be good at being a contrarian, you have to be convincing. Whether or not you believe what you’re saying.

some things are fact yes, most is just a skewing of the truth to suit your own agenda. its nothing to do with delusion. I value opinion more than so called fact