4 way vape off.... Eclipse v's Kylin Mini II v's Blotto Mini v's Juggerknot MR

[Fazz711]

Nice work.
Very helpful.
Looking forward to your guides

 

[Gitchy]

Great thread @Squidgy

Nice to see the Kylin at the top, it's still my favourite, despite me trying a few different single coilers lately. I just love the draw on it.

 

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Sorry, my comment related to an RDA, not the same.

 

[oORobOo]

Ok the results are in, sorry for the wait, took a bit longer than I first thought, coupled with the day job being damn busy and a touch manic last week.

Firstly, comparing the four RTA’s side-by-side threw up a bit of a curve ball that I wasn’t expecting and didn’t account for. To be honest it took me by surprise. Inadvertently not only was I comparing RTA’s but I was also comparing my mods. To start off with I’d paired up the tanks and mods as follows.

· Juggerknot MR – Innokin Z80 (F0 mode turned off)
· Kylin Mini II – Geekvape Aegis x
· Blotto Mini – Dovpo Odin Mini (DNA)
· Eclipse - Voopoo Drag 3

It was apparent from the outset that although the mods were all set at 30w in variable wattage mode the actual outputs to the coils were considerably different. So my plan had to alter somewhat and a significant amount of testing was done on my Drag 3, for the simple fact it was a dual battery mod and my Aegis was destined for something new (the overweight bunny I was waiting on had landed). Flavour and cloud comparisons were done on the Grus as I have two of them and could test two tanks at a time side-by-side. The Z80 was also used for the odd test here and there.

Anyway, moving onto the actual purpose of the testing. Which RTA out of this four is the best?

The RTA’s were all cleaned, fitted with the same Flapton 24/32 SS316L 5 wrap 3mm ID coils and wicked using Firebolt 3-3.5mm Cotton Laces, in my opinion the best wire and cotton around that suits my style of vaping.

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Each RTA has its own style for wicking and I wicked them how I’ve personally found provided the best flavour, I am a flavour chaser after all.

I’ve included a sheet detailing the results broken down into each test. I’ve made some slight alterations with regards to the marking scheme, some categories where somewhat over weighted and gave significant advantage to a particular tank that is cheap as chips at the moment and cost isn’t the be all and end all in my book.

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So the Kylin Mini II pipped this bunch, I’ve tried to be as unbiased as possible. Is the Kylin Mini II my favourite? Actually no it isn’t! I do like it and it has permanently held a place in my rotation as do all of these tanks, admittedly the Eclipse has only just entered into the mix, but since I got it, it’s been in there. My favourite is the Juggerknot MR, it’s a good all-rounder, tends to be my go to for my favourite juices and working so well at lower wattages it's great for sitting on a single cell mod. I think what I have taken away from this test is that as far as the flavour/vapour output goes there’s nothing separating them, they’re all as good as each other and perhaps I should share my best juices around a bit more.

I think I’ll still plan to do a “Squidgy’s Coil and Wicking Guidance” for each of these RTA’s at some point, it could prove useful, even if it’s just for me to refer back to if/when I lose my marbles.

Very well compared I think your overall scoring system could do with a little work on its point weighting though, as an example the difference of 5db on each airflow is the equivalent of paying £50 for a tank or getting it for free which is a little extreme. Very helpful and nicely done though

 

[spirited]

Have to admit I am surprised the eclipse came last - but well done for your efforts - appreciated.

 

[Fazz711]

Very well compared I think your overall scoring system could do with a little work on its point weighting though, as an example the difference of 5db on each airflow is the equivalent of paying £50 for a tank or getting it for free which is a little extreme. Very helpful and nicely done though

Was wondering about the db scores.
A difference of three db is equivalent to twice the intensity of noise.

 

[lucapug]

@Squidgy thank you for your work. You have just convinced me to buy a qp juggerknot ... Shame on you! [emoji28]
I have a yachtvape eclipse but i don't get on with it as it's too airy for my style of vaping and also it gets a bit hot: i like a real rdl and a cool vape.
Is it the juggerknot tighter in terms of draw and also cooler(at 30-35 w)?
Ps: do you cut your coil legs at 4,5?

 

[Squidgy]

I think your overall scoring system could do with a little work on its point weighting though

Cheers bud, will have a stewards inquiry tomorrow

 

[Squidgy]

@Squidgy thank you for your work. You have just convinced me to buy a qp juggerknot ... Shame on you! [emoji28]
I have a yachtvape eclipse but i don't get on with it as it's too airy for my style of vaping and also it gets a bit hot: i like a real rdl and a cool vape.
Is it the juggerknot tighter in terms of draw and also cooler(at 30-35 w)?
Ps: do you cut your coil legs at 4,5?

Air flow on the Jug is smooth, not that restrictive when wide open but runs well for me anywhere between open and 3/4 open giving plenty of control without any annoying whistle.

It is slightly cooler than other tanks when you run it at 30w, but it wicks really well so theres no problem bumping up the power to warm things up a bit.

Coil height is the key for flavour, but coil leg length isn't as I cut mine by eye for the Jug. Cut the legs short enough so the belly of the coil bottoms out on the deck when you fasten, once in place lift the coil slightly with a coiling jig so the belly of the coil is about 1 to 2mm from the deck and your good to go.

 

[lucapug]

Air flow on the Jug is smooth, not that restrictive when wide open but runs well for me anywhere between open and 3/4 open giving plenty of control without any annoying whistle.

It is slightly cooler than other tanks when you run it at 30w, but it wicks really well so theres no problem bumping up the power to warm things up a bit.

Coil height is the key for flavour, but coil leg length isn't as I cut mine by eye for the Jug. Cut the legs short enough so the belly of the coil bottoms out on the deck when you fasten, once in place lift the coil slightly with a coiling jig so the belly of the coil is about 1 to 2mm from the deck and your good to go.

Thank you agan mate