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[andipandi]

One of you two that have the drink to hand need to narrow down where the alcohol element is coming from.

Rum, I had some white rum concs somewhere, think I binned it, will check later. I'm not big on drinks, in a vape, so it's a bit of a challenge. I can see ccw cream having a place in this recipe as well.

 

[Chris K]

Nice


That's well said all through, my issue is my taste buds/ sinuses: vaping, drinking and eating, I cant go as deep on flavour descriptions, as you (or others). Fruit wise, I've been convinced mango plays a big part, just wondering about the sour and bitter follow through, which to me, is definitely there.

I might be totally wrong but Flv Milk & Honey is made for this recipe, I get no honey at all, just an amazing Butterscotch.

Another good call! I've heard of Milk & Honey FLV but I've never used it, definitely need to give that ago.

One of you two that have the drink to hand need to narrow down where the alcohol element is coming from.

Bavarian Cream isn't a bad shout but think it would want something a little thicker like Hangsen Italian Cream and definitely not Cream Fresh it's too thin and clean.
Catalan maybe in a small amount as it's got that Custard feel about it.

I'd say in my humble opinion that it would do the recipie a disservice if it didn't contain it's name sake and from your description @Chris K about the mango and banana i think the inawera one sounds on the money.

BTW I'm a few flavours short and am not about to order from inawera direct for one flavour.

http://www.inaweraflavours.com/product.php?id_product=1046

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I'm happy to order a couple of bottles, can bob one through your letter box if you want it mate? I'll hang fire though until we have a possible recipe, can bulk order then.

As Andi says, It's a Rum alcohol, problem is I've tried about 6 different Rum flavourings and all were terrible. Only one good one I know but can't buy it off the shelf unfortunately. Rum & Raisin though I've never tried, could work provided the Raisin is subtle or blends well with other flavours.

Cream Fresh provides a great mouth feel at about 0.7%/1% but always needs support from other creams otherwise, as you said, it falls flat.

 

[andipandi]

It's a Rum alcohol, problem is I've tried about 6 different Rum flavourings and all were terrible.

Have you tried the FA Jamaican Rum?

 

[Mr Ripple]

Another good call! I've heard of Milk & Honey FLV but I've never used it, definitely need to give that ago.



I'm happy to order a couple of bottles, can bob one through your letter box if you want it mate? I'll hang fire though until we have a possible recipe, can bulk order then.

As Andi says, It's a Rum alcohol, problem is I've tried about 6 different Rum flavourings and all were terrible. Only one good one I know but can't buy it off the shelf unfortunately. Rum & Raisin though I've never tried, could work provided the Raisin is subtle or blends well with other flavours.

Cream Fresh provides a great mouth feel at about 0.7%/1% but always needs support from other creams otherwise, as you said, it falls flat.

Thank you and would keep me in the game.
Could get expensive though bud I've no rum n rasen or tiramisu.
Are we going dtl or mtl?

 

[Chris K]

Have you tried the FA Jamaican Rum?

I did, just couldn't get it to work. Flavour never seem to come through for me. I was limited as had an X% total flavouring I couldn't go over but after taking Rum to 12% and not getting anything, I gave up.

Thank you and would keep me in the game.
Could get expensive though bud I've no rum n rasen or tiramisu.
Are we going dtl or mtl?

I'd say 60/40, that way if people are using shots, can take it to MTL with a 50/50 or DTL with a 100VG.

I always develop using 6mg MTL then make sure works at DTL after and adjust as needed, bit time consuming but usually works but if people do it as they would vape it, might end up with a good alrounder!

Can you or anyone else suggest good Rum & Raisin and Tiramsu? Don't have either of those so I'd need to order them in aswell.

If you want mate, to save costs, can break it down into a base (Caramel/butterscotch Cream) then, once that's nailed, I don't mind playing with the less common ones like Marula, Tiramsu, Rum & raisin etc.

 

[Chris K]

Hmm... I wonder....

https://www.fsecig.com/flavor-west/fw-butter-rum-concentrate.html

FSE have Marula aswell by way, cheaper on postage than from Poland!

If the butter Rum doesn't work, looks like Inawera do a Rum aswell now. Didn't try that one.

https://www.fsecig.com/inawera/rum-aroma-eliquid-flavour-concentrate.html

 

[Mr Ripple]

I did, just couldn't get it to work. Flavour never seem to come through for me. I was limited as had an X% total flavouring I couldn't go over but after taking Rum to 12% and not getting anything, I gave up.



I'd say 60/40, that way if people are using shots, can take it to MTL with a 50/50 or DTL with a 100VG.

I always develop using 6mg MTL then make sure works at DTL after and adjust as needed, bit time consuming but usually works but if people do it as they would vape it, might end up with a good alrounder!

Can you or anyone else suggest good Rum & Raisin and Tiramsu? Don't have either of those so I'd need to order them in aswell.

If you want mate, to save costs, can break it down into a base (Caramel/butterscotch Cream) then, once that's nailed, I don't mind playing with the less common ones like Marula, Tiramsu, Rum & raisin etc.

Okay lets create a lst of essentials then winkle down the specifics.

Cream
Caramel
Butterscotch
Nut?
Coffee
Fruit (Marula) or Mango & Banana
Rum

 

[Mr Ripple]

Hmm... I wonder....

https://www.fsecig.com/flavor-west/fw-butter-rum-concentrate.html

FSE have Marula aswell by way, cheaper on postage than from Poland!

If the butter Rum doesn't work, looks like Inawera do a Rum aswell now. Didn't try that one.

https://www.fsecig.com/inawera/rum-aroma-eliquid-flavour-concentrate.html

Captain rum Molinberry 5* 104 recipes on elr
Inawera rum 5* 88 recipes
FA jamaican rum 4* used in 11845 recipes.
If i had to pick without trying them I'd pick the Molinberry

 

[Chris K]

Okay lets create a lst of essentials then winkle down the specifics.

Cream
Caramel
Butterscotch
Nut?
Coffee
Fruit (Marula) or Mango & Banana
Rum

Id say that abouts sums it up for now.

Creams... I'm abit set in my ways, I suspect you'll do better there.

Caramel... Dulce De Leche by Flavor West is a cracking one, will add the sweetness and abit of cream aswell.

Butterscotch... FlavourArt is a good one, doesn't need much and is quite deep.

Nut... I didn't pick much Nut out from the drink but the mouth feel nut gives would be a bonus... Peanut butter TFA maybe?

Coffee... Tiramsu here is a must, I think @andi52 has it spot on, adds the slight coffee note along with the chocolate and adds again to the cream

Fruit... Marula INW, if that doesn't work, would have to revisit

Rum... I'd say try Butter Rum Flavour West or the Rum Inawera. Just done alittle digging and Butter Rum apparently adds a slight tartness that would work a treat I suspect.

What you think mate?

Anyone else want to throw anything out there, fire away please.

 

[Mr Ripple]

Id say that abouts sums it up for now.

Creams... I'm abit set in my ways, I suspect you'll do better there.

Caramel... Dulce De Leche by Flavor West is a cracking one, will add the sweetness and abit of cream aswell.

Butterscotch... FlavourArt is a good one, doesn't need much and is quite deep.

Nut... I didn't pick much Nut out from the drink but the mouth feel nut gives would be a bonus... Peanut butter TFA maybe?

Coffee... Tiramsu here is a must, I think @andi52 has it spot on, adds the slight coffee note along with the chocolate and adds again to the cream

Fruit... Marula INW, if that doesn't work, would have to revisit

Rum... I'd say try Butter Rum Flavour West or the Rum Inawera. Just done alittle digging and Butter Rum apparently adds a slight tartness that would work a treat I suspect.

What you think mate?

Anyone else want to throw anything out there, fire away please.

Copy the list and add the suspects and we'll see what we've got.