Commonwealth e-cig ban - scotsman article.

[VaperCaper]

Glasgow 2014: E-cigarettes banned from all venues


*sigh*

So far be it from me to tell the organisers how to run a sporting event, but, if you are going to ban something at least use valid reasons for doing so. This article is just bad in so many places.

[e-cigs]Many look like cigarettes due to the vapour that is emitted, leading health campaigners to claim they continue to normalise smoking to children.

look like cigarettes due to the emitted vapour? Really? I'll half concede that point, provided that the observer is far away, and outdoors. Though I suspect "looks like smoking" was the sentence you were actually going for there.

How you get from that to health campaigners claim ... normalise smoking to children? Do you have kids? I don't but I have 4 gorgeous nieces I spend a fair amount of time with. Kids are NOT stupid. Cigarettes look different, they smell different, e-cigs do not "normalise" smoking to children, they normalise NOT smoking.
Also people can claim anything, I can claim that the moon is made of goose fat, it doesn't mean I'm right about it, and a lazy reporter might report my claim in an article they wrote, my claim is still rubbish but if you make claims in news articles that sound plausible, and have the air of authority to them (as an aside just how well qualified IS a "health campaigner" anyway?) but are badly wrong then you're not doing anyone any favours.

Public health minister Michael Matheson said: “I welcome this, as e-cigarettes are not regulated, nor have they been proven to be safe and effective.”

e-cigs ARE REGULATED. Just because there is no specific regulation targeted at e-cigs, it doesn't mean they aren't regulated. (If we repeat this enough times will it ever sink in?)
e-cigs have not been proven to be safe, that kind of depends on how you define safe. e-cigs have been proven to be many times safer (about 100x safer) than smoking tobacco, and they absolutely HAVE been proven effective.

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[Mark]

The Lords is considering the ban on using cigarettes in cars. If not passed it will be in the Labour manifesto.
Begs the question of use of ecigs in cars. We aren't smoking of course. But I can imagine the hard pressed traffic cops spotting apparent 'smoke' in Joe Public's Mondeo scratching their heads when you pull out your ecig.

 

[yodadude]

Illegal Smoking / vaping in cars? They can fuck right off if they think they can tell me what I can and can't do on my own property / space!!

 

[Blackhack]

The law changed to stop me and anyone else smoking at my/their place of employment, and as I drive a taxi for a living I was banned from "Smoking" in my own cab as that is where I'm "Employed" The taxi is owned by me which I bought and paid for....I was always getting a pull from the taxi enforcement (Taxi police) for "Smoking in my taxi.....but on explaining I was not "Smoking" as there was no combustion, nor even any tobacco involved they always scratched their heads and mumbled something about it looking like smoking before drifting off looking for another victim....they dont bother me now...."It's just that wierdo again"......The more we educate the non vapers as to what vaping is all about the better it will be for all of us.......

 

[Ninjaassasin1983]

you have the right to do what you like in your car be it smoking,vaping,shagging,masturbation,dogging ok i'll stop there as this is leading me down a bad road

 

[Blackhack]

Sorry Ninj, but the law's quite clear...Even if I own the vehicle, It's against the law to smoke in it....much like white van man and lorry drivers...It's their place of work.

 

[robteifi]

you have the right to do what you like in your car be it smoking,vaping,shagging,masturbation,dogging ok i'll stop there as this is leading me down a bad road

You're not Andy Sutton are you?

 

[Ninjaassasin1983]

i was never given a name

 

[EthelKing]

Just to add a bit of fuel to the fire - the inside of your car is classified as a public space, believe it or not!

It may well have changed, but I had a case a few years back and the copper dealing with it told me. So I got onto the council, and a roadsweeper clears it out once a week for me! Ha ha!

 

[ElsaBubs]

dogging ok i'll stop there as this is leading me down a bad road

i'll meet you on the bad road in 10 minutes, flash your lights when you see me