E-cigarettes to be banned from Scotland hospital grounds

[securityuniform]

It would actually make a lot more sense if they had a designated vaping room and gave the patients something like a cig-a-like to help their cravings than have very ill people forced to go outside with their drips and bags to feed their cravings. When Dad was in hospital last month he was there three weeks and I took him outside in the freezing cold in a wheelchair with his drain and bottle on a little shelf underneath so he could have a smoke. He only went out twice a day for a couple of fags. I gave him a little cheap starter kit but they caught him using it in his room and had a right go at him. The care was excellent and I can't complain otherwise, but insisting a sick old man went outside rather than puff on something harmless with very little vapor is stupid. We have to use an antibacterial hand wash before we go on the ward but they destroy any benefit by making sick people have to go outside.

 

[nikki from mars]

securityuniform absolutely true this... and for people in hospital longterm who are pretty ill anywy it's just cruel to force them not to smoke/vape and either go without or use substandard nrt products. .. I think could also be challenged under human rights laws... for example in mental health wards I believe they have to provide a smoking area as it is classed as where you are living... same should really apply to longer term hospital stays...

 

[steffijade]

It would actually make a lot more sense if they had a designated vaping room and gave the patients something like a cig-a-like to help their cravings than have very ill people forced to go outside with their drips and bags to feed their cravings. When Dad was in hospital last month he was there three weeks and I took him outside in the freezing cold in a wheelchair with his drain and bottle on a little shelf underneath so he could have a smoke. He only went out twice a day for a couple of fags. I gave him a little cheap starter kit but they caught him using it in his room and had a right go at him. The care was excellent and I can't complain otherwise, but insisting a sick old man went outside rather than puff on something harmless with very little vapor is stupid. We have to use an antibacterial hand wash before we go on the ward but they destroy any benefit by making sick people have to go outside.

A vaping room would be a common sense idea.

Unfortunately, the people pushing this through aren't interested in common sense, they're tied to an ideological belief. They believe that smoking and anything that resembles it should be under their control and they should be free to tell smokers/vapers what they can and can't do.

It'a narrow minded, blinkered ideology called 'quit or die' and these people have gotten so used to being unopposed in their crusade for the past few decades, that anything that challenges their presumed authority not only scares them, it angers them too.

Most vapers will just pop to the loo for a vape anyhow, so the announcement is little more than an attempt to try and confirm their presumed authority.

 

[Diablo]

What makes you think the people who made these decisions were well educated? It was probably a few office admin types and middle class stay at home mums from the PCT, the Doctors won't have had owt to do with it.

No issue with doctors. But from what i have seen regarding clerical bosses of such places they are usually led by some overpaid twat of a consultant. Regardless, still cunts

 

[schlinky]

A vaping room would be a common sense idea.

Unfortunately, the people pushing this through aren't interested in common sense, they're tied to an ideological belief. They believe that smoking and anything that resembles it should be under their control and they should be free to tell smokers/vapers what they can and can't do.

It'a narrow minded, blinkered ideology called 'quit or die' and these people have gotten so used to being unopposed in their crusade for the past few decades, that anything that challenges their presumed authority not only scares them, it angers them too.

Most vapers will just pop to the loo for a vape anyhow, so the announcement is little more than an attempt to try and confirm their presumed authority.

See, I envisage a bunch of very serious, self important people sat around a table discussing things like this with no real connection to the topic, the issues or the actual 'real people' affected by their nonsense.

It's a combination of factors; the general portrayal and misinformation surrounding vaping coupled with the holier than thou, quit or die mentally and wanting to be seen as 'doing the right thing'. With no informed viewpoint they can't make any objective decisions and dropping the ban hammer is by far the simplest and straight-forward course of action.

 

[Mawsley]

There's a bed-blocker element to the decision. If you can encourage people to go home it frees up resources.

 

[Car147]

I for one wont be stopping, due to go in for a knee op in the next few months (only been waiting over a year so far) and i'll be in stealth mode!

As for vaping in the grounds FFS! your out in fresh air, and are probably inhaling worse from the bloody vehicles going in and out... Twats!