Ministers urged to ban single-use vapes amid rising popularity with UK children - The Guardian

[DMAN]

I could see him standing outside school gates.

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With a bag of puppies.
And a white transit van.

 

[ZenAnarchi]

The media can’t just say we’ve been fed this story by a minister, they have to say they have an expert so their opinion sounds legitimate. Noam Chomsky, among others, covered this decades ago. If it’s any consolation, AI will replace most “journalists” and “experts” in the coming years. Most people don’t care, they just want to be told their opinion by a talking head

 

[zouzounaki]

What exactly is a vaping expert?

somebody who came on here posting a questionnaire to help with their research study.

 

[Toby iVapour]

What exactly is a vaping expert?

Someone like Clive Bates.. it's a real shame these media hysterical fear-mongering articles do not consult him...

The Bullshit Asymmetry Principle
https://tobaccoreporter.com/2022/12/01/the-bullshit-asymmetry-principle/

What is really going on with youth vaping?
I believe there are two broad patterns of youth vaping and two distinct behaviours at work, but these are often conflated. The first is frivolous and experimental use, where young people try new things. This has characteristics of a frothy fad: infrequent use, transient and unpredictable. The second is more determined nicotine use: frequent, intense and entrenched. But this group is more likely to be the adolescents who would otherwise be using cigarettes or other tobacco products.
The first group contributes to the “youth vaping epidemic” narrative but is not really a cause for great public health concern. The second group represents the migration of nicotine use in society to far safer technologies and is likely beneficial for public health. The activist proposition, however, requires policymakers to believe there is no latent demand for nicotine use and that removing products will eliminate nicotine from society. But it is much more plausible to think of the demand for nicotine in similar terms to alcohol, caffeine, cannabis and other recreational substances.
People use nicotine for a reason, and there will be a long-term demand for it. The task for policymakers and regulators is to make that acceptably safe and to resist simplistic activist propositions that are likely to do more harm than good.

 

[Toby iVapour]

Meanwhile a loophole that allows free vape samples to be given to under 18s is to be closed, it also appears they can be sold to under 18s if they are nicotine free.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65749389

Free vape samples for children to be banned

This article had me rather perplexed because we have never given away free vape samples, let alone to kids...

In the past year, thousands of children in the UK were given a free vape, according to data from Action on Smoking and Health (Ash).

Who are these companies supposedly giving away free vapes to kids?
I have never heard of it...

 

[ZenAnarchi]

Free vape samples for children to be banned

This article had me rather perplexed because we have never given away free vape samples, let alone to kids...

Who are these companies supposedly giving away free vapes to kids?
I have never heard of it...

I wondered the same! It seems highly unlikely that anyone would actually hand out vapes to children, other then a heroin dealer looking to branch out

If a business did dare to do this openly, I can imagine that there undoubtedly would be a column of local citizens with pitchforks and torches on there way to burn the bastards out.

 

["Misfit"]

Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I don't think they are going to stop at disposables cause there is a lot of talk about flavours that are aimed at kids

 

["Misfit"]

Free vape samples for children to be banned

This article had me rather perplexed because we have never given away free vape samples, let alone to kids...

Who are these companies supposedly giving away free vapes to kids?
I have never heard of it...

Hey Toby I've just pmed you my address to get a load of those freebies they keep talking about

 

[zouzounaki]

Hey Toby I've just pmed you my address to get a load of those freebies they keep talking about

sorry. think you are too auld

 

["Misfit"]

sorry. think you are too auld

But it's for the grand weans