Mixing and Understanding

[BooBoo1982]

you guys are f**king awesome and I am literally overwhelmed with the advice...I've taken the plunge and order the relevant stuff and will hopefully get cracking over weekend (I shall be re-visiting this then) I shall probably post more divvy questions on Sat when I am a quivering mess surrounded by syringes bottles and juce everywhere!!!! Guys I worship you!!!

 

[Purplefowler]

You'll be fine but if you do get stuck or if you just need a bit of encouragement just yell! We"ll all see you right!

 

[Vape-space]

breakthru is good not as good as POTV's though

 

[EthelKing]

you guys are f**king awesome and I am literally overwhelmed with the advice...I've taken the plunge and order the relevant stuff and will hopefully get cracking over weekend (I shall be re-visiting this then) I shall probably post more divvy questions on Sat when I am a quivering mess surrounded by syringes bottles and juce everywhere!!!! Guys I worship you!!!

BooBoo1982 - worry ye not! If I can mix up a juice, anyone can! The flavour of a juice will develop over time - so if your not sure of the taste at first, leave it a couple of days and see what happens to it - I've made some monsters that turned out to be very nice.

 

[Bryan123456]

AndyC1971 piccies sound awesome! I am thinking of just ordering from Leisureliquids EVERYTHING i require then just biting the bullet and crack on with it...I would probably attempt the final strengths of 24mg & 18mg ..AndyC1971 Thank you... i need EVERY bit of help i can possibly have!!!

If you order from www.leisureliquids.com - the Capella flavours are really easy to mix. If you add them at 15% of your total volume to start with, it is hard to go wrong. What final nicotine strength do you want?

Recipe
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PG based nicotine base 54 mg/ml 3.5 ml
Capella flavour (any one) 1.5 ml
Vegetable Glyserine (VG) 5.5 ml


Final quantity 10.5 ml
Nicotine strength 18 mg / ml
VG content 53%

Its best to let the final liquids steep - (which is standing the closed bottles in a warm dark place for a week) - before you use them - they'll taste better.

 

[BooBoo1982]

If you order from www.leisureliquids.com - the Capella flavours are really easy to mix. If you add them at 15% of your total volume to start with, it is hard to go wrong. What final nicotine strength do you want?

Recipe
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PG based nicotine base 54 mg/ml 3.5 ml
Capella flavour (any one) 1.5 ml
Vegetable Glyserine (VG) 5.5 ml


Final quantity 10.5 ml
Nicotine strength 18 mg / ml
VG content 53%

Its best to let the final liquids steep - (which is standing the closed bottles in a warm dark place for a week) - before you use them - they'll taste better.

I am aiming for 18mg I think I have ordered a Capella flavour?! Can't remember though! Well I am sure I will end up doing another order fairly soon!!! Ekkkk I am a little excited now!

 

[AnnaLaw]

If you order from www.leisureliquids.com - the Capella flavours are really easy to mix. If you add them at 15% of your total volume to start with, it is hard to go wrong. What final nicotine strength do you want?

Recipe
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PG based nicotine base 54 mg/ml 3.5 ml
Capella flavour (any one) 1.5 ml
Vegetable Glyserine (VG) 5.5 ml


Final quantity 10.5 ml
Nicotine strength 18 mg / ml
VG content 53%

Its best to let the final liquids steep - (which is standing the closed bottles in a warm dark place for a week) - before you use them - they'll taste better.

Fingers crossed I'll get some Capellas soon, including the RY4 that was sold out everywhere.
I know I should start with a single flavour but all the ones I want have three or four at least.

So I'm wondering how that recipe would go with two Capella and two PA flavours. Would I need to reduce the amount of Capella (RY4 is 50% of flavour, the rest should be equal amounts of each) for a dessert RY4 using Capella RY4 and Graham Cracker, PA caramel and bavarian cream, ethyl maltol not in the recipe but have to see if it needs any enhancing.

I'm not going to start with that though. Was planning to knock up a simple sample tonight but don't want to do mixing with a cold... may sneeze into it.

 

[BooBoo1982]

Nawwwhhhh #AnnaLaw I hope u get better soon!!! I shall be "experimenting" on sunday so I will let u all know how I get on! I frickin' love this forum....I always been intimated by 'em before however this one (the only one I am a member of) makes me feel all warm and fuzzy!

 

[AnnaLaw]

You'll do fine #BooBoo1982 , just don't spill nic on the floor and tread in it with bare feet.
I'm hoping my cold has cleared up by Sunday as I was planning to mix tonight only fuzzy head and sneezing don't go well with mixing, could end up with something I could call smurf snot.
I'm a member of 4 forums although I don't post much to 2 of them, and they're all very friendly. I think that all the best people are vapers... where else do you find a community where people always help each other?

 

[Bryan123456]

Fingers crossed I'll get some Capellas soon, including the RY4 that was sold out everywhere.
I know I should start with a single flavour but all the ones I want have three or four at least.

So I'm wondering how that recipe would go with two Capella and two PA flavours. Would I need to reduce the amount of Capella (RY4 is 50% of flavour, the rest should be equal amounts of each) for a dessert RY4 using Capella RY4 and Graham Cracker, PA caramel and bavarian cream, ethyl maltol not in the recipe but have to see if it needs any enhancing.

I'm not going to start with that though. Was planning to knock up a simple sample tonight but don't want to do mixing with a cold... may sneeze into it.

If someone like Ethelking has given you a recipe (and he is a bit of an RY-4 expert with his own legendary mix) then I'd presume he specifed the concentrates to use - because RY-4s vary in strength and taste quite a lot. As for "RY4 is 50% of the flavour" - how can you possibly know (unless this is the final effect you are aiming for on your taste buds)? I can cite two Apple flavours: Wera Garden Bahraini Apple Gold - which came out amazingly rounded and finished at 2.3% and PA Apple - which was insipid and disappointing at 20%. If I stated that Apple was 50% of the flavour I would be using I would need to be very specific about the brand and variety.

Capella and Tino D'Milano are highly polished finished concentrates - designed to be simple to mix up a final vape that is quite delicious using just that concentrate - anything else done to it is just a bit of tweaking to personal tastes. These finished 'ready to go' concentrates will bring a lot of other things to the party with them - that you may or may not want in your final mix if you are putting 3-4 flavours together. The simple way to deal with that is mix the Capella or Tino D'Milano up first and let it steep out. If you added e.g. Capella Vanilla Custard concentrate together with an apple concentrate into some diluted nicotine base, the result might be dissapointing. If you first mixed up some Vanilla Custard, let it steep, mixed some apple vape, let it steep and then mixed these together (e.g. put a small amount of apple vape into a bottle and drop by drop added the finished vanilla custard vape into that) - chances are you'd end up with a good apple and custard vape.

Sometimes when mixing just adding several flavour concentrates together into diluted base, strange things happen (I am still working up my Ms Cool's Lippy Kisses because of this - strange things happened several times). PA's Waffle is a good case - add it as a concentrate and add anything else to it and it gets lost, Mix and steep it first and it survives.

On concentrates, I would never start mixing them without first trying the individual flavours and letting them steep. The strength of concentrates can vary hugely as can the flavours (I still haven't started my group Vanilla test - but the range, finish and strength varies massively). A good start point is the manufacturers recommended dilution (Capella state this, Inawera state this, FA do on some). Then adjust. It is also wise to try a few flavours together first - if you mix up the 4 constituent parts first and use the dropping method (take careful notes) to combine these (a) your experiments will be cheaper (b) the chances of ending up with a largeish quantity of Frankenjuice are diminished. I hope this helps. But there is virtually zero chance of getting a bad mix in using just one Capella or Tino D'Milano flavour on its own - which is why these are sooooooo good