MPs awarded £3,500 pay rise only months after shunning nurses

[ObiWanVaponi]

that’s where abstaining is useful.

I voted for all of them. (spoiled the ballot)

Wasn't useful at all, a bunch of fucking politicians got in.

 

[BigCloud]

 

[ObiWanVaponi]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...few.html?utm_source=upday&utm_medium=referral

 

[Simon G]

... and neither am i an extremist.

ummm, you kind of are... that's why you keep referring to people who hold fairly 'normal' conservative views as 'far right'.

If you are that far away, then you are stood on the extremes aren't you?

It's the same as looking at your average, working class Labour voter as 'far left'.

.. to me these people are just a couple of streets away from me, we share some views and differ on others but they aren't so far away that we can't talk and get along ...... to you they aren't even on the same continent but that's because of where you are, not where they are.

 

[Simon G]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...few.html?utm_source=upday&utm_medium=referral

Interesting...

"Earlier, in separate data, NHS England reported that 60 people with COVID-19 had died in hospitals in the space of 24 hours - all aged between 41 and 93 years old. All but five of them had known underlying health conditions."

60 people had died 'with' Covid.. not 'because of' and 55 of them 'had known underlying health conditions' ... I wonder what 'conditions' those were? Terminal cancer perhaps...

I don't know what to believe any more.....

 

[crustyfolker]

Slippery slope to closing down the way of life we had and all of a sudden there will be that many rules in place and made law that the Gov will decide to leave in place just so they have more control of what goes on. Not saying Covid doesn't exist but i do think there is more to whats happening than folks realise. part of locking folks down is a good idea but the reason it isn't working is folks who get covid and get bored isolating, feeling better they go out into the public still contagious.
Old Don Fart is a liar, he ain't had covid. If he has and medication has helped why can't this be given to all covid patients.

 

[zouzounaki]

@ZT @Simon G on the question of extremism;

it puzzles me that a person who believes the wealth of the planet should be distributed far more equally and that everybody should get along and live comfortably happily, would be considered an extremist.

but yet the status quo is responsible for vast and increasing wealth inequality, supports a rich elite to continue to find ways to further exploit the poor and disenfranchised, has displaced millions of people from land that has supported their ancestors for generations and forced them into precarious labour and exploitation in slums, uses war as a pretext for transferring more wealth from the poor to the rich and which is supported by all of the supposedly mainstream political parties. that seems far more extreme.

 

[zouzounaki]

Interesting...

"Earlier, in separate data, NHS England reported that 60 people with COVID-19 had died in hospitals in the space of 24 hours - all aged between 41 and 93 years old. All but five of them had known underlying health conditions."

60 people had died 'with' Covid.. not 'because of' and 55 of them 'had known underlying health conditions' ... I wonder what 'conditions' those were? Terminal cancer perhaps...

I don't know what to believe any more.....

the figures they are publishing include people dying for any reason within 28 days of a positive covid test. it states this on the bbc news every day when they show it.

 

[ObiWanVaponi]

@ZT @Simon G on the question of extremism;

it puzzles me that a person who believes the wealth of the planet should be distributed far more equally and that everybody should get along and live comfortably happily, would be considered an extremist.

but yet the status quo is responsible for vast and increasing wealth inequality, supports a rich elite to continue to find ways to further exploit the poor and disenfranchised, has displaced millions of people from land that has supported their ancestors for generations and forced them into precarious labour and exploitation in slums, uses war as a pretext for transferring more wealth from the poor to the rich and which is supported by all of the supposedly mainstream political parties. that seems far more extreme.

Thats not "extremism"
Thats "corruption"

 

[zouzounaki]

Thats not "extremism"
Thats "corruption"

it is corrupt, but it is inherent in how capitalism works.