UK Ecig Store - Right to Reply

[Dagger]

I'm finding it very difficult to give a shit about all of this

 

[Numpty]

You probably wouldn't notice if everyone left Mate!!! 462 posts in 17 months!!! Nuff said.

I don't really have to justify my post count but you could factor a 6 month period of serious ill health meaning no posts if my post count is troubling you.

I think you are missing a more important point in that attacking POTV and throwing all your toys out of the pram for a non event is nothing short of embarrassing in the world of grown ups.
Sure disagree with what happened and state your position as this is a forum and it's very existence depends on it, I just have an issue with what I can only see as small minded over reaction to a non event...

From what I see POTV done the best they could to maintain a neutral position as any decent forum should, they did post the UK Ecig statement and what's wrong with that ?
Are we now taking the position if you don't like the news we shoot the messenger ?

 

[Abyss]

In my opinion UK Ecig Store are a complete rip-off. All there products can be purchased much cheaper elsewhere. Just looking on there website now they charge £24.99 for the Anyvape Peakomizer and you can get it for £17 from Vapenquit and about £18 including postage from Vapercaper.

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[HAZZA1962]

I don't really have to justify my post count but you could factor a 6 month period of serious ill health meaning no posts if my post count is troubling you.

I think you are missing a more important point in that attacking POTV and throwing all your toys out of the pram for a non event is nothing short of embarrassing in the world of grown ups.
Sure disagree with what happened and state your position as this is a forum and it's very existence depends on it, I just have an issue with what I can only see as small minded over reaction to a non event...

From what I see POTV done the best they could to maintain a neutral position as any decent forum should, they did post the UK Ecig statement and what's wrong with that ?
Are we now taking the position if you don't like the news we shoot the messenger ?[/QUOTE

Fair enough!!! It was, in hindsight a cheap shot!!! I just thought you were a bit dismissive of the loss of some Great and Knowledgeable people on here, in Particular Mawsley who contributes immensely to the enjoyment of this Place!!! I don't agree with their decision to leave as I stated in an earlier post, but I respect their reasons for doing so.

 

[Maxcat]

I don't really have to justify my post count but you could factor a 6 month period of serious ill health meaning no posts if my post count is troubling you.

I think you are missing a more important point in that attacking POTV and throwing all your toys out of the pram for a non event is nothing short of embarrassing in the world of grown ups.
Sure disagree with what happened and state your position as this is a forum and it's very existence depends on it, I just have an issue with what I can only see as small minded over reaction to a non event...

From what I see POTV done the best they could to maintain a neutral position as any decent forum should, they did post the UK Ecig statement and what's wrong with that ?
Are we now taking the position if you don't like the news we shoot the messenger ?

'From what I see POTV done the best they could to maintain a neutral position as any decent forum should, they did post the UK Ecig statement and what's wrong with that ?
Are we now taking the position if you don't like the news we shoot the messenger ?'



Wow! Much has happened, A long read. But Numpty (The most appropriate user name I’ve ever had the misfortune to suffer.)

READ THE OP

'As a mod team'

'we can't really see what they have done wrong'
'
'we are happy to post this on their behalf'.

'the support they have received from us'

This is why I’m out!

 

[9668harry]

Surely the vendor is entitled to do what ever they want with there goods, the could set fire to them for all I care. If as a customer there actions offend me, I vote with my feet and boycott them. What's the point of getting all worked up about the state of play. For what it's worth I think the vendors decisions were a bit shitty, tbh I don't use them and given whats happened I probably won't in the future. It really doesn't need to go any further then that. The moral high ground is all very we'll and good but you've got to be careful to not step over the line of 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'. The vendor will keep on trading regardless.

POTV in the interest of fairness must provide both sides of the argument with a forum to put there sides across within the framework of there set rules and guidelines. I feel they have pretty much done that.

The discount added at the end of the vendors statement was a bit mmmmm tbh. Maybe not the best decision given the reaction by some members to whats been happening, POTV maybe should of advised against that saying 'that's probably not the best thing to do, save it until it's all died down a bit'. That's my only real gripe tbh.


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[Merino-Teflon]

'From what I see POTV done the best they could to maintain a neutral position as any decent forum should, they did post the UK Ecig statement and what's wrong with that ?
Are we now taking the position if you don't like the news we shoot the messenger ?'



Wow! Much has happened, A long read. But @Numpty (The most appropriate user name I’ve ever had the misfortune to suffer.)

READ THE OP

'As a mod team'

'we can't really see what they have done wrong'
'
'we are happy to post this on their behalf'.

'the support they have received from us'

This is why I’m out!

I could capitalise too, but I shant, and that was a mistake on me colleague's part, which has been covered in Mawsley farewell thread, but can I just say, don't let the door hit you on the way out if and when you do, finally, fuck off, cheers, old bean.

 

[AndyC1971]

Like I said, going to close this thread and the other as I can see that there are two sides to the argument, some don't see it as a problem, some couldn't care less and some are so moved that they would rather leave the forum than see UK Ecig with an account on here.

If you want to leave then fine but we aren't going to ban a vendor because something happened with an auction they chose to run. They only posted the auction to their customer list, they never advertised it on here, that would have been different. I would rather all vendors and all posters have the right to say what they want. If you don't stick up for the new users and challenge the vendors that are doing things wrong then how do we improve and give feedback where the vendor also has the right to give their point? We won't all agree on everything that each other says, that's the point of a democracy and free speech so to fall out over this would be a shame.

Does this mean the negative reviews rules will be changed then??!!

Now what I find really interesting is that I know of at least three of your team have had serious issues with the company concerned, and I have had major problems too with an order, continually lied to, and that alone should be enough to wipe them from this forum.

Personally, I dont give 2 shits if they were trying to sell this at a mass profit or not, but if they were prepared to do this, it should make people realise what their practices are like. I just feel sorry for the person who buys this, if it goes tits up!

 

[Numpty]

Fair enough!!! It was, in hindsight a cheap shot!!! I just thought you were a bit dismissive of the loss of some Great and Knowledgeable people on here, in Particular Mawsley who contributes immensely to the enjoyment of this Place!!! I don't agree with their decision to leave as I stated in an earlier post, but I respect their reasons for doing so.

I wasn't being dismissive, I just question their reasoning given the situation.
I fully understand and pretty much agree that UK Ecigs made a poor decision and followed up with a pretty weak response but so f*cking what ...

Anyone that feels that strongly can decide to purchase everywhere else and let their hard earned pounds have the last say.
Isn't the point that members like Mawsley should be able to absorb the occasional decision that that rocks their moral soap box after so much time and input here ?

POTV has to do the best it can to find middle ground when these things happen, sometime we will be ok with it and sometimes not but that's life so maybe tantrum throwing and foot stamping from members that can only be comfortable when the decisions are tailor made for their delicate sensibilities are not such a loss, anyone has the right to leave if their delicate sense of fair play takes a little knock but what does that really say ?

 

[bronbunbet]

On a lighter note there's klingons on the starboard bow
The Firm - Star Trekkin': http://youtu.be/FCARADb9asE

Can't we just all get back to the good stuff and enjoy the forum now