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VTTV tonight

did anyone see VTTV tonight it annoyed me they did a third of the show on the new gen 2 BAT device the excel i believe it was called.
now they are saying its a good thing if everything goes pear shaped but looking at this device I don't see how it could get a licence
and they're saying juice with a medicinal licence can be over 20mg/ml how the hell can that be right.
I dont think we can put the future of this industry in the hands of big tobacco and expect anything good to come of it - they will push these gen 2 devices out before regulation hapens and then say oh we can't actually sell this under the new rules gen1 anybody?
it was almost as if the vttv team and Ecca were saying we should accept this compromise as its the best we're going to get.
I say we need to keep fighting because I love my gen 3 devices and in the hands of big tobacco and or big pharma our nems,chi you's,gp paps,dna20's,dna 30's will dissapear forever.
RANT OVER.
ur opinions please people.



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Original post amended as I didn't want to single anyone out as they are all entitled to their opinions as much as anyone else I suppose I got annoyed because I wasn't getting a chance to get my point across

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There will be no aggro. :)

Andy`s right, there won`t be any aggro mate.
POTV isn`t an "aggro" type of place which is why I spend most of my time on here.

There is plenty of aggro available on other vaping forums hence the reason I don`t tend to linger on many other forums.
It`s easy to get really wound up about the whole situation simply because it stinks to high heaven of political backhanders and corruption and if there is any justice heads will roll over the way the TPD has been drafted.
 
That's the problem with VTTV chat of course - everybody talking at once and poor Sav has to try to condense that to a few points to read out. Too easy for her to miss something.

The same can be said for the rest of us in chat as well, sometimes if you glance away from chat for a few seconds to actually watch the show, a whole page of comments or more can go by. Just one of those things I guess.
 
I've tried to voice an opinion in VTTV chat,during a discussion that had attracted so many people to login to chat that I had the devils own job getting in.I've now forgotten what I wanted to say that night so it's irrelevant.

I also understand just how frustrating it can be when you see,day after day after day the media stories/the BMA Articles etc denigrating our vaping and talking such utter tosh that it has me screaming abuse at my TV,yet I go post comments on the stories/articles & fuck all notice gets taken.I recall FarceBooking a petition then sending it to everyone of my contacts on FarceBook,there were several rejections to my request to sign it as they considered it was a virus/trojan & I blew my top asking in capital letters "DO YOU GET MANY FUCKING VIRUS SENT TO YOU FROM ME,WITH HUGE HEADLINES ASKING YOU TO SIGN IT?" which had the desired effect as they meekly responded "signed it" I just wish they'd all sign the EFVI petition now,without me needing to chase them up individually & ask them to sign it.

Whilst in town today,there were lots of stares at my huge clouds from my sub-ohm dripper and the occasional sight of friends stood smoking had me asking why they were smoking when they could vape,whereupon a couple responded "I've got one of them" and pulled the Ego from their pockets,which had me draw a huge lungful & blow it out before uttering a "Toot toot,I'm a steam train" as I wandered away muttering "but that won't do this" :rofl:
 
I've tried to voice an opinion in VTTV chat,during a discussion that had attracted so many people to login to chat that I had the devils own job getting in.I've now forgotten what I wanted to say that night so it's irrelevant.

I also understand just how frustrating it can be when you see,day after day after day the media stories/the BMA Articles etc denigrating our vaping and talking such utter tosh that it has me screaming abuse at my TV,yet I go post comments on the stories/articles & fuck all notice gets taken.I recall FarceBooking a petition then sending it to everyone of my contacts on FarceBook,there were several rejections to my request to sign it as they considered it was a virus/trojan & I blew my top asking in capital letters "DO YOU GET MANY FUCKING VIRUS SENT TO YOU FROM ME,WITH HUGE HEADLINES ASKING YOU TO SIGN IT?" which had the desired effect as they meekly responded "signed it" I just wish they'd all sign the EFVI petition now,without me needing to chase them up individually & ask them to sign it.

Whilst in town today,there were lots of stares at my huge clouds from my sub-ohm dripper and the occasional sight of friends stood smoking had me asking why they were smoking when they could vape,whereupon a couple responded "I've got one of them" and pulled the Ego from their pockets,which had me draw a huge lungful & blow it out before uttering a "Toot toot,I'm a steam train" as I wandered away muttering "but that won't do this" :rofl:

Ha I'm a steam train great one

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