Asking a warm vape to a TC mod

[cyberlollo]

Hi guys,
I'm vaping for a while in TC, using Titanium and SS on my RDTA or RTA and using rx200 or evic vtc mini.

Let's start with how I like to vape, warm vape around 25-30W
starting in TC I set my mod to 465F or 240°C
with a 0,39ohm (3mm, 6-7wraps) set at 30W coil my TC reach the protection almost immediately kicking down the watts to about 17w.
if i set 21W it jumps from 19 to 21W.
result? cold vape, not warm, no satisfaction, but it seems to be correct, since on steam-engine the range for a 0,39 coil is around 21W.

Single coil deck can't host more than 6-7 spaced wraps (a deck like the one of subtank mini, a kayfun single coil deck)
so the only way to increase the temperature of the steam is to choose a gauge, that with the same amount of wraps requires more wattage to be in its "perfect range".

so for vape around 30w I should take a 24g 7 wraps 3mm that vapes good at 28-30W.

now my question is, I saw a lot of people using Titanium coil with 26g, and without to build in dual-coil, it's impossible to keep the watts around 30W if you don't reduce the size of the wire, since I cannot make more wraps on the single coil deck, is this right? am I wrong?

I know that in TC you vape choosing the temp, but assuming a perfect wicking, the watts affect how warm is the vape or not? and if not, why when the wattage goes down to about 17 i experiment a cold vape?

should I try a 24gauge titanium for my purpose?

thanks in advance and sorry for my english

 

[DMAN]

This is why i'm not interestef in tc. I want to choose the power i vape at, and i like a warm to hot vape.

 

[cyberlollo]

This is why i'm not interestef in tc. I want to choose the power i vape at, and i like a warm to hot vape.

IF, what i wrote is correct, SS should be better, using a 0,5mm wire (24g) require more wattages for heat up correctly.
but I don't like nichel for its taste and concern about safety, also you need to do make a lot of wraps.
SS contains nickel and molybdenum, and that's why I'm using Ti.
wait for other replies before to add in the FT cart some lower titanium gauge.

 

[danb]

@cyberlollo you're overthinking this, it's TC, Watts are not important. You mod will supply what is needed to maintain the set temp, you just need to set high enough to hit the set temp.

If you're getting a weak, fluctuating vape it is most likely a wicking problem.

 

[Jugg1es]

What software version is on the rx? Are you locking the ohms in whilst the coil is room temp?

 

[gary68]

I usually aim for 0.15ohms with titanium or nife. But since trying claptons I've not used tc for a while

 

[cyberlollo]

rx200 firmware 3.00
obviously I locked the resistance..I'll show you in a second how much cotton I put in.
I spent tons of hours looking to videos and pictures, reading about how to wick and how to make the coil, can't solve it either.
my vtc mini does the same (last firmware) .

 

[Jugg1es]

You know you can add a TCR value for the coil don't you?

 

[Jugg1es]

 

[cyberlollo]

I didn't mention it but..vaping in M1, tcr set to 366 as stem engine, and different wires
(tried to move from it, if I set about 380 it improves a bit..)
Tried in Ti mode is even weaker.
Toke a pad of muji organic cotton, avoided to use the external part, stretched it, and you can see how much portion I use..
reviews say that for wick the cthulhu v2 deck you should put cotton in the liquid channels (canals? sry) but if I do that it's worse, and drops to lower wattage.

Now this is a 7 wraps 3mm 26G (0,40mm) 1-1,5mm far from air hole, it vapes hitting the temp protection and wattages fluctuate between 19-16(17).