So.. does anyone actually use TC ?

[Simon G]

It depends on the wire. With roundwire I don't bother as the cost is negligible. but it is worth cleaning complex coils IMO - but I don't use them for TC.

Do people use complex coils for TC now? I always thought that it didn't really work because all the different wires all had different TCR's and even if they are the same material they aren't going to be heating up at the same rate are they?

Not that I really know because I don't use complex coils, but that always used to the established advice/thought anyway.

 

[John R]

The kids will do anything these days Si, then usually exclaim TC is shite, 'cos they don't know any better.

There's truth in the old adage, you can't educate pork.

 

[Crispycritters]

Do people use complex coils for TC now? I always thought that it didn't really work because all the different wires all had different TCR's and even if they are the same material they aren't going to be heating up at the same rate are they?

Not that I really know because I don't use complex coils, but that always used to the established advice/thought anyway.

I don't use complex coils for TC - not only because of the varying TCRs, but also because i only use SS in TC and the resistance of the coils tends to be too low so the resistance increase when heated doesn't vary enough for the board to respond in time.

 

[Simon G]

I don't use complex coils for TC - not only because of the varying TCRs, but also because i only use SS in TC and the resistance of the coils tends to be too low so the resistance increase when heated doesn't vary enough for the board to respond in time.

Gotcha, I got confused because of the thread being about TC... and I missed your comment that you don't use them for TC.

(even though I quoted it) lol

 

[John R]

Heaven forbid people actually stick to the topic.

 

[vapervince]

I get the best results when I glow the coils to a dull cherry red, I think that taking them to a bright red or hotter can bake a kind of residue on which reduces the time till the next clean.

 

[ChrisLikesCoffee]

Pulsing a fused Clapton and dipping it in water, is probly as fast as fitting a new FC coil and clipping legs then checking for hotspots, saves money aswell.

Much faster I'd say and if you have a good setup just the way it is (albeit clogged up with gunk), why change the metal anyway.

Even if it wasn't a money saver I don't see any need to change (unless by looking at it with a magnifying glass, I do see a reason !). In the end they'll degrade of course, don't we all; but unless it's something delicate then not just from a few weeks of use, or even several months especially for something basic and sturdy like an AWG 24/26 single/parallel build with no clapton or ribbon funny business going on.

I sometimes take coils out just purely so I can try out a new pair of a different sort on a specific deck, but I clean the old ones first, tie them together as a pair with a spare bit of wire and stash them away. Having said that, I never seem to then put them back in anything, but always nice to have lots of spares.

 

[ripe_plantain]

Do people use complex coils for TC now? I always thought that it didn't really work because all the different wires all had different TCR's and even if they are the same material they aren't going to be heating up at the same rate arey they?

Yes, I do in TC but all SS. Clapton coils work well as all SS or if the wrap is say Kanthal or Nichrome (I haven't tried with a TC capable material for the wrap). By rights the wrap is warmed from the core wires and has a ridiculosly higher resistance. So my 2x28/40 .35Ω each core wire is about .7Ω and that 40awg wrap is 221.82Ω (not a typo).

What's really effed up is when one builds parallel coils of different material because they will heat and cool at different rates.

 

[Rob]

or can’t build your atties right and get dry hits all the time, it may be useful.

Speaking as One who had that problem until a couple of days ago, I agree, whilst I was having the horror show that was the Tremors, I couldn't rely upon my building skills, so started using TC exclusively to tame the beast. Worked like a charm. Now I have "most" of the use of my hands and fingers back, I have rebuilt everything in the house and have tried wattage only vaping and strangely, much prefer the vape from TC. Maybe it's because I had become so used to it over the last 10 years or so, but for now, I much prefer it.

 

[zouzounaki]

Speaking as One who had that problem until a couple of days ago, I agree, whilst I was having the horror show that was the Tremors, I couldn't rely upon my building skills, so started using TC exclusively to tame the beast. Worked like a charm. Now I have "most" of the use of my hands and fingers back, I have rebuilt everything in the house and have tried wattage only vaping and strangely, much prefer the vape from TC. Maybe it's because I had become so used to it over the last 10 years or so, but for now, I much prefer it.

i think k there is probably a degree of what you are used to. i’ve never really taken to tc as i’ve only ever tinkered with it, and went back to power mode as i prefer it. but i think preference can often just be what we are more accustomed to.