E-cigarettes in UK could be banned under WHO regulations

[andipandi]

adding the recreational drug of their choice to their juice

Specifically THC/ cannabis, smokers do it, why cant vapers? Why cant I? Being someone who lives 24/7 with chronic pain.

adding oils to their juice mix

I agree, knowingly doing that, would be insane.

massively overflavouring their juice and vaping it excessively

Subjective, it's nobody's business.

installing builds which are way too hot for the atty to handle

Most people use regulated mods, they might shorten the life of the mod, or batteries, but it's not inherently unsafe. Most people use stock coils, they do not rebuild, they might install an inappropriate stock coil, but they learn quick, because they end up with a flat battery (very quickly) and suffer poor vape performance.

vaping on burnt coils and wicks

That can and does happen with closed systems, it's not exclusively an open system problem.

dry hitting on poor builds

As previous reply.

unsafe battery practice (can of worms within this)

Goes on, I agree, but the vast majority know what do, and the vast majority of vapers don't use replaceable batteries, they are built in, to the device.

uncontrolled access to and use of mechs (another can of worms)

Most vapers have never been near a mech.

unsafe concentrated nicotine handling

A huge (and I do mean huge) majority of vapers have never been near, nor handled or used 72mg nic.

 

[scrumpox]

My Take ... the problem is some don't know what they are doing .

Logically, this argument would extend way beyond mechs, wouldn't it? So why restrict your logic to mechs only? It's a powerful argument for closed systems.

 

[scrumpox]

Specifically THC/ cannabis, smokers do it, why cant vapers? Why cant I? Being someone who lives 24/7 with chronic pain.

I agree, knowingly doing that, would be insane.

Subjective, it's nobody's business.

Most people use regulated mods, they might shorten the life of the mod, or batteries, but it's not inherently unsafe. Most people use stock coils, they do not rebuild, they might install an inappropriate stock coil, but they learn quick, because they end up with a flat battery (very quickly) and suffer poor vape performance.

That can and does happen with closed systems, it's not exclusively an open system problem.

As previous reply.

Goes on, I agree, but the vast majority know what do, and the vast majority of vapers don't use replaceable batteries, they are built in, to the device.

Most vapers have never been near a mech.

A huge (and I do mean huge) majority of vapers have never been near, nor handled or used 72mg nic.

I'm not here to defend each point, simply explain the logic for nanny states to ban open systems.
I'm fairly libertarian, I could care less what people do to themselves. I am law abiding and I dislike the state telling me what I can and cannot do where it doesn't affect anyone else.
My point really, is that I can see where the legislators are coming from in this. Regrettable but somewhat justifiable and perhaps inevitable.
What most people do isn't their concern, the state feels it needs to protect those who don't know what they're doing - like being able to rewire a plug or just change the fuse.

Yes, you might get dry hits with closed systems but that would be a manufacturer error and the consumer can enact their rights. What it seeks to obviate is user error.

 

[MHL]

Are you sure it's really about safety though? I think it's more likely a moral stance in disguise.

Nanny state protecting people who don't know what they're doing could extend very deeply in a lot of directions.

 

[scrumpox]

Are you sure it's really about safety though? I think it's more likely a moral stance in disguise.

Nanny state protecting people who don't know what they're doing could extend very deeply in a lot of directions.

What on earth are you suggesting? That the war on Iraq was not about the safety of American citizens?

 

[Jd_]

The biggest health risk that has been mentioned so far (aside from adding fat soluble thinning agents) is probably vaping on dirty coils, which is going to massively increase even with rebuildables

I wont comment on 72mg nic to avoid an argument, but im sure most know my feelings towards that, lol

 

[Phat Barstood]

They could start with BBQ's...

 

[MHL]

Pe

What on earth are you suggesting? That the war on Iraq was not about the safety of American citizens?

Perhaps the rich ones, by stemming the flow?

 

[Phat Barstood]

The biggest health risk that has been mentioned so far (aside from adding fat soluble thinning agents) is probably vaping on dirty coils, which is going to massively increase even with rebuildables

I wont comment on 72mg nic to avoid an argument, but im sure most know my feelings towards that, lol

What,too manly for you is it...lol

 

[Jd_]

U can kill yourself just as easy downing one of those 40 packs of nic lozenges....that u can buy in the gas station...probably without id....and applauded while u r buying it...