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Dr_Puff

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...call-total-ban-sale-cigarettes-born-2000.html

[h=1]Doctors call for total ban on sale of cigarettes to anyone born after 2000 in bid to cut smoking-related deaths[/h]

  • Experts call on the BMA to lobby Government for a total ban
  • The age limit for buying cigarettes would rise every year until smoking is completely eliminated
  • Doctors also criticise local councils' £1billion investment in tobacco funds


 
I responded to this when Clive Bates tweeted it.

I can see the theory behind it - because total banning is fraught with problems when it involves removing something that people have already got. If you want to ban tobacco, the only solution to this is to ban it for all potential users and naturally phase it out as existing users "reach the end of retirement" (LOL).

In practice, of course, a ban will not prevent people born after 2000 any more than a 16+ and later 18+ ban prevented under 16's/18's from obtaining tobacco and flouting the law. Most of us started smoking at an age when we weren't legally allowed to purchase it - the only way this proposal will differ is that, as time goes on, it will be increasingly harder for the 15 year olds to convince a shop worker that they are old enough (as the age limit reaches 30+) - but that's assuming the shopkeeper cares and that the individual doesn't have some other means of obtaining their tobacco, which will get a lot easier once they're adults (if I were a 30 year old married to a 35 year old and both smoked, but only my spouse could buy tobacco, he would just buy for the both of us).

I just imagine the ludicrous situation in the future when a shopkeeper has to ID an OAP to check they're really 81, not 80!!
 
Yeah that'll be easy to implement....NOT
We would be moving closer to the total nanny state....I.D. cards by yet another route
 
  • Doctors also criticise local councils' £1billion investment in tobacco funds

The NHS has a lovely pension scheme whose "benefits are fully guaranteed by the Government."

No doubt local councils and the rest of us can go swing when looking for profitable investments.
 
I just imagine the ludicrous situation in the future when a shopkeeper has to ID an OAP to check they're really 81, not 80!!

This made me laugh, hahaha!!!

I get the idea behind this but I think there are just too many problems with implementing it. It is a dangerous game when you start to decide for people what they can and cannot do. Also where does this end? Cigarettes...alcohol....sugar?
 
People will just grow tobacco plants on their windowsills.
 
This made me laugh, hahaha!!!

I get the idea behind this but I think there are just too many problems with implementing it. It is a dangerous game when you start to decide for people what they can and cannot do. Also where does this end? Cigarettes...alcohol....sugar?

Tickles me, too - I almost want this to happen so one day some spotty youth has to tell an 80 year old they're too young to buy a packet of fags
 
People will just grow tobacco plants on their windowsills.

Clint, people and local councils already do grow nicotiana as a summer bedding plant every year - coming to a bedding scheme near you soon* :D

It might get called 'ornamental tobacco' (nicotiana sylvestris) as per one packet on the page linked, but it's actually tobacco by any other name ...

* for anyone out there who might be thinking "I'll 'ave some of that" I don't advise or advocate picking or pulling up any plants you haven't grown yourself!
 
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