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Getting a bit fed up now!!

I'm on my phone and struggling at times navigating around the site.. where can I find the rules on the classifieds? ?
 
I've yet to use the classifieds, and that's the first time I've read those particular rules. Seems crystal clear to me, though I agree that the post count is a little low to be able to start trading. This is one of the best communities I've ever been a member of, out of all my past and current interests, and I feel I know and would trust most of the regulars (in the virtual sense), but only through reading what you've written. Honesty (mostly), great banter and info sharing make this a real nice place to hang out. So try not to piss off the big bosses on here please, they have enough to do keeping us unruly lot in check :) Seriously, if you want to scam fellow vapers, piss of to FarceTwat or Fleabay etc. or simply stick around and take part. You don't have to read or reply to every post made, there's plenty of diversity here, surely something will peek your interest.

I thank you :)
 
I would like to pick on the facebook comments, having an fb account I have a number of vaping groups some informative, some are just for selling, but lets remember fb has no rules and if a group does it's imposed by the person who created the group. I have come across a number regarding buying/selling/trades where someone has been left out of pocket, the problem with this is there is no recourse other than the person who created the group removing the offender, but that doesn't help the person who is out of pocket.
I join forums to get help and information, Ok sometimes the hardest part is getting your post count up but as a noob you can ask questions that will help you gain some of the knowledge and experience others have gained, they have btdtgtts so their knowledge is invaluable.
I'll take up @mick brown comment about site donations, that's a difficult one, but I am a member of a couple where you can get help and support but if you want to use a certain feature of say the software provided there is a cost. Likewise with forums like this there is a cost for hosting the site and there has to be a cost in maintaining it, you then have forum mods who volunteer THEIR time to the smooth running of a forum.
Having rules and restrictions helps them with their role and contributes to what one hopes is a smooth running forum.
I think what I fail to understand is those that join a forum don't introduce themselves, ask a question, get an answer, then either don't have the courtesy to say thank you or give an update....then they bugger off until they want more help.
Ok look at POTV, let's say you charge £5 pa membership, not gonna break the bank is it, and before anyone says that's 150k+ pa, but it would pay for the site incl maintenance, some payment could go to the mods for their time and what's stopping the rest of it being used as monthly competition give aways, it's not rocket science.
 
Im a fresh fish and would of not signed up with a £5 joining fee...

If youve been here for years and love the site,Id guess you'd happily pay a subcription fee..

Im guessing again.. I reckon the site makes plenty wonga off advertising and the site owner gets a few quid from that..

Asking people to donate who are sellers would be a better option...

Asking people to boost amount of posts sounds good but Id rather read 50 meaningful posts compared to 500, one liners with little or no benifit to me or anyone..

Thats my thoughts as a new member to the forum..
 
Regarding payment of Mods, Staff and Admin. I believe that I can speak for the vast majority and say that we don't do this and expect any sort of payment. Be that financial, or any other form that payment might take.
We do what we do because we are proud of what POTV stands for and what it achieves.
Funding may become more of an issue now that advertising is being hit so hard by TPD, but you'd need to hear about that from The Bosses. Thankfully, with their forward thinking and preparation, I believe that the future of the Forum is secure.

I hit a very low point yesterday as you will have seen. My own silly fault because I care passionately about this place, it isn't just The Classifieds, it is everything that the forum stands for and offers its members. I lost sight of the fact that we are all here because we succeeded in stopping smoking, or are well on the way to doing so. This is something that occasionally gets forgotten by most of us and it is perhaps something that we should celebrate?

Either way, I am only a very small cog in a huge machine. Yes, I can get annoyed when I see things going wrong through stupid reasons, but in the main, I have always thoroughly enjoyed my time here. I well remember taking my first step in joining, reading everything I could and wondering what on earth everyone was talking about? All those extraordinary terms and names of things. But you get there in the end. Everything that I know about vaping in general, came from POTV. I am a member of 2 other forums, one is ukv and the other is ECF, though I only ever go to the "By Leo" Section of ECF and to be honest, I can't remember the last time I visited ukv.

Normal Service will resume from me, but at the moment, I think it best that I take some down time and recharge the very depleted batteries.
 
I feel I must clarify a statement I made earlier about subscription.
Another site I am a member of , not vaping , I pay a subscription to but that is my choice. You can pay as little as £5 and up and don't have to pay every year. It's called a donation actually.

If you donate you have access to the whole site and if you don't then you are restricted. No access to selling is just one.

If I had to pay to join I would have never bothered but once on the site and seeing the help you get and can give and the amount of banter then it becomes enjoyable so I felt I would donate.

Just thought I'd clarify [emoji6]

This is a great site and I hope it continues.
I'm not that knowledgeable about all of this so reading the posts is interesting.
Sometimes puzzling [emoji23]
 
As usual, you're right @Rob. To you, me and many others here this forum is like a second home.

There is a lot of people here, and the vast majority are awesome. As with anything if you have vast numbers there will be problems, but the positivity in this forum is exceptional.

I am far from outspoken, I spend a ridiculous amount of time on these pages, I don't always chime in, but the knowledge I've gained here is incredible.

Kick back Rob, try and take it easy. If anyone has any issues, questions or problems with the classifieds at the moment, please just pm me. I'll help where I can, and only call in Rob where need be.

Let's let him get those batteries recharged, we need him back at 4.2v as soon as possible. [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]
 
Its fair enough to air your dissapointment & frustration with the situation Rob

Having read the thread & posts, your concerns are pretty much validated..

Ive bought stuff in the past in good faith, only to be parted with my cash and the seller disappear ( not here obviously) .

I was stuip enough to to belive someone was having trouble with paypal and at their request sent funds via direct bank transfer.. ( wont do that again)

With anything in life you always get some who as in it for their own gain and their moral compass dont point in the same dierection as the greater good..

Anything to protect consumers can only be a good thing..



Keep up the good work..
 
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