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.. also breathing something into your throat and lungs is completely different to getting something on your hands or bathing in it. ffs. :19:

why do I put myself through this?
Missed your contributions mate :hugs:
 
.. also breathing something into your throat and lungs is completely different to getting something on your hands or bathing in it. ffs. :19:

why do I put myself through this?

i think @andipandi might still be bathing in PG. :)

hope all’s been well with you!
 
For some unknown reason just read this entire thread.

That’s ten mins of my life I’m never getting back o_O
 
If vaping is so bad, for whatever reasons the OP has stated then how the hell did many of us smoke like chimneys, some of us for decades :hmm:
 
I have always had a favourite phrase that I’ve always stuck by and it has always stood me in good stead.

“THE TRUTH IS YOUR BEST WEAPON”.

It’s never let me down yet. We all know how bad it is to get caught on a lie. The truth is lovely because the evidence will always back you up and then you can weaponize truth and beat the crap out of people with it. Lies have a horrible habit of exploding in your face and kicking you up the arse.

I’ve had a couple of days more to think about this thread and why I started it.

It’s because EVERY SINGLE TIME when anyone came on here for advice about soreness and burning THE FIRST THING that gets mentioned is PG.

Defaulting to PG is the wrong place to start.

I posted the Safety Data Sheet on my opening post which tells you all nicotine is a POISON which in it’s pure form can kill just by getting through your skin.

Some of you, quite rightly, have said that other things like PG or some flavourings when you heat them up can produce harmful chemicals that some people can’t tolerate. And, of course, we mustn't forget about our coils and cotton.

So think about this logically.

PG is a mostly harmless substance which is used quite happily in many products. The same can be said for flavourings which are also food grade but they all have the potential to become harmful if you heat them up.

THEN WHAT DO YOU THINK HEATING UP A KNOWN POISON LIKE NICOTINE WILL DO?

If you find a particular flavour or base liquid doesn’t agree with you then what if you combine it with heated nicotine. You end up with TWO substances working together to make the problem worse.

So why is it that EVERY TIME everyone wants to dance around the elephant in the room and just bang on about PG allergy or flavourings but no one wants to even mention nicotine as a suspect?

By doing that you’re lying to yourselves.

I’m not going to stop vaping.

I love vaping.

I’ve got 10 years of built up knowledge about vaping and I’ve also personally experienced the effect of it on my own lungs and throat and, yes, I regularly get problems of soreness and burning all the way from my mouth to my lungs.

If I want to deal with it I first have to identify the real reason for it and figure out how to overcome it.

So where should I start?

Of course other things in my vape could be contributing factors but the first and most obvious place to start has to be NICOTINE. How much is in my juice and how much am I ingesting? Like I said, the only thing I vape is my DTL RTA and I suck in big lung fulls with every puff.

When someone comes on here looking for your help and you start by straight away banging on about PG allergies or dodgy flavours as your first go to and trying to pretend the NICOTINE ELEPHANT right in front of you doesn’t exist you are doing far more harm than good.

If you can’t handle the uncomfortable truth that nicotine has to be TOP OF THE LIST as the first thing to consider then you’re lying to yourselves.
 
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