I'm having the vaccine when it comes out poll

[OzoreXS]

They are saying that the effect ... or the protection/inmunization better said, lasts "just" for 2-3 months.
what do you think about that? how many times do we will need to be vaccinated along 2021?
This is getting weirder day by day

 

[oldhippydude]

They are saying that the effect ... or the protection/inmunization better said, lasts "just" for 2-3 months.
what do you think about that? how many times do we will need to be vaccinated along 2021?
This is getting weirder day by day

If you only have 2 or 3 months of data all you can say for sure is that protection lasts 2 or 3 months.
To go beyond that you have to extrapolate from how natural infection or other vaccines protect.

I do not think many scientists think protection will be that short lived.
Most folk naturally infected seem to still be resistant to infection and most vaccines similar viruses seem to be effective for at least a year. You might need to be vaccinated once a year. we will have to wait and see, it might be more or less often.

 

[Crewella]

Not anti-vax, and not unexpected as there are similar reactions to other vaccines. Just a point.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...extreme-allergy-sufferers-regulators-reaction

 

[Phat Barstood]

Have it or don't have it,it's your choice.I'll have it and if anybody is stupid enough to be swayed by 'experts' on social media then so be it.

 

[Leni]

@andi52 See @Crewella ’s post above.... I don’t think your wife will be offered this vaccine with the allergies you mentioned she has.

 

[andipandi]

@andi52 See @Crewella ’s post above.... I don’t think your wife will be offered this vaccine will the allergies you mentioned she has.

Thanks for that, hmm, I don't think my wife will risk it, but does she want to risk covid by not having it, will have wait for more info and reports of allergic reactions I suppose.

Not anti-vax, and not unexpected as there are similar reactions to other vaccines. Just a point.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...extreme-allergy-sufferers-regulators-reaction

Didn't see your post, thanks for the info!

Anaphylactic shock is a one in a million chance, with vaccines, so I read. Even so, I'm not sure how I'm going to sell having the vaccine to my wife, given her history with anaphylaxis and her having been prescribed adrenaline auto injectors, for nearly 20 years.

Update for anyone who suffers from, or has family and friends who are at risk due to allergies, anaphylaxis, carries an Adrenaline auto injector etc:

People with a history of significant allergic reactions should not have the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid jab, regulators say.

It came after two NHS workers had allergic reactions on Tuesday.

The advice applies to those who have had reactions to medicines, food or vaccines, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency said. The two people had a reaction shortly after having the new jab, had treatment and are both fine now.

They are understood to have had an anaphylactoid reaction, which tends to involve a skin rash, breathlessness and sometimes a drop in blood pressure. This is not the same as anaphylaxis which can be fatal. Both NHS workers have a history of serious allergies and carry adrenaline pens around with them.

Professor Stephen Powis, medical director for the NHS in England, said both individuals are recovering well.

"As is common with new vaccines, the MHRA have advised on a precautionary basis that people with a significant history of allergic reactions do not receive this vaccination after two people with a history of significant allergic reactions responded adversely," he said.

Dr June Raine, head of the MHRA, said it was only right to take this step now that "we've had this experience".
Reactions like this are uncommon, but do happen with other vaccines, including the annual flu jab.
Several thousand people were vaccinated on Tuesday in hospital clinics on the first day of the UK rollout of the new Covid jab.

Prof Peter Openshaw, an expert in immunology at Imperial College London, said: "The fact that we know so soon about these two allergic reactions and that the regulator has acted on this to issue precautionary advice shows that this monitoring system is working well."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55244122

https://www.anaphylaxis.org.uk/2020/12/02/covid19-vaccinations-and-allergies/

 

[Mr Ripple]

The NHS state 1 in 4 people have allergies.
47,000 people took part in the trial of this vaccine and half of them were meant to have been given a placebo.
That leaves 23,500 people that received it who were seemingly fine.

 

[andipandi]

The NHS state 1 in 4 people have allergies.
47,000 people took part in the trial of this vaccine and half of them were meant to have been given a placebo.
That leaves 23,500 people that received it who were seemingly fine.

What is your point, forget about allergies and the like, just have the vaccine and see what happens?

Have you ever seen someone dying in front of you because they cant breathe, due to anaphylactic shock? A shot of Adrenaline from an auto injector doesn't guarantee survival, it buys time, that is all, sometimes not much time at all.

 

[Leni]

The NHS state 1 in 4 people have allergies.
47,000 people took part in the trial of this vaccine and half of them were meant to have been given a placebo.
That leaves 23,500 people that received it who were seemingly fine.

The word ‘allergies’ is used in too broad a way these days. A true allergic reaction can be potentially deadly, like if someone allergic to nuts inadvertently eats something they didn’t realise has nuts in. I have a sensitivity to some perfumes, so use only unperfumed products to wash myself and my clothes with - otherwise I get dermatitis. That kind of sensitivity is often described as an allergy these days too. I doubt the trial included anyone with the potentially life-threatening type of allergy.

 

[Leni]

What is your point, forget about allergies and the like, just have the vaccine and see what happens?

If I may.... I think Mr Ripple was just wondering why there were no reports of allergic reactions in the trials, that’s all. IMO the participants of the trials will have been screened before taking part, anyone with known allergies (the life-threatening type!) will have been excluded from taking part. Allergic reactions to vaccines are a possible complication that’s been known about for a long time, it doesn’t help anyone to complicate matters in the initial trials.

If your wife wanted a vaccine @andi52, I think it’s unlikely she’d be allowed this one.... but obviously, the GP would clarify that for you both