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I've been all over. Was in Highdown for around 6 months on a recall (only jail I've been to with 3 man cells:28:). Been to Reading (x2), Onley and Portland YOI's. Highdown, Pentonville, Camp Hill (x2) and Swansea HMP's.

Bloody hell mate youve done the grand tour :D:D
 
What are you getting banged up for? :D

Main charge is GBH but have 2 other lesser charges as well.

Hope you can swerve getting jail time but even if you don't you'll be absolutely fine mate. It's nothing to fret about.

How long could you get?

I'll never forget the first time I got released. Was on Christmas eve '99. Talk about perfect timing. My birthday is on the 30th so I made it for Christmas, my birthday and New Years. Just as well as I was in jail for the next 5 in a row. :rolleyes:

Solicitor reckons I'm looking at 2-4 years with everything so thinking 3 years. I know you only do half vut it still seems a long time with everything else going on as well.

You did a fair bit of time mate. looking at the list of nicks you've been in you could nearly do a whole Trip Advisor thing on prisons. Must have been great getting out for the whole Millenium thing. Was only 9 myself back then!

Thanks for saying it will be alright. What did you find the worse thing about it? I did 6 months in MCTC Colchester when I was in the Army when I was younger so not totally new for me but I know regular prison will be different from that.

Don't know if you had kids back then but what do you think of having them visit me in prison? Not sure if it is a good thig for them or not. I knowI woud like to see them but not sure if it would be good for them to see me there. My oldest lad understands about what is happening and it's been the hardest thing dealing with him when he was asking why I was a bad man! Also worried about if he might get a hard time at schoo when I get sentenced as am sure it will be in the local papers.
 
Barring some f**king miracle, yeah. 2 weeks to sentencing.

Stranger things have happened. I was looking at a 5-7 back in 2010 and got off with 300 hours community service and 2 years probation. The fines fella wasn’t even in so no fines either. Luckiest day of my life.

Having said that, expect the worst. Nothing worse than false hope.
 
@Mark29
Mate i did some time in Colchester back in the army days. If you can cope with that you’ll be fine in civvy hmp’s. They have pods and pens for vaping. Can’t have anything vape related from the outside world with you.
Wishing you well mate.
 
Main charge is GBH but have 2 other lesser charges as well.



Solicitor reckons I'm looking at 2-4 years with everything so thinking 3 years. I know you only do half vut it still seems a long time with everything else going on as well.

You did a fair bit of time mate. looking at the list of nicks you've been in you could nearly do a whole Trip Advisor thing on prisons. Must have been great getting out for the whole Millenium thing. Was only 9 myself back then!

Thanks for saying it will be alright. What did you find the worse thing about it? I did 6 months in MCTC Colchester when I was in the Army when I was younger so not totally new for me but I know regular prison will be different from that.

Don't know if you had kids back then but what do you think of having them visit me in prison? Not sure if it is a good thig for them or not. I knowI woud like to see them but not sure if it would be good for them to see me there. My oldest lad understands about what is happening and it's been the hardest thing dealing with him when he was asking why I was a bad man! Also worried about if he might get a hard time at schoo when I get sentenced as am sure it will be in the local papers.

Yeah, unless things have changed, 4 years + equals a parole sentence and anything under 4 years means you only serve half your sentence inside and the rest outside on license. If you do get sent down my advice would be to get on an offending behaviour course as soon as you can. It's possible to get out even earlier on "tag" which is a home curfew with an electronic tracking device strapped to your ankle. Could potentially take another couple of months of your sentence. But you'll have to make an effort inside to address the offence that put you there and that means doing offending behaviour courses. Don't wait for them to offer, just get on and ask.

Feck me you just made me feel old. :18: I'm only 10 years older than you tho. It was definitely a lucky touch to get out when I did. I should have been out two weeks earlier but they added two weeks on to my sentence for getting busted with a tiny bit of weed. Just glad they gave me two weeks extra and not three! I was only 19 at the time so they'd shipped me up to Onley YOI which is right up in Warwickshire. A 5 hour drive home.

Worst thing about being inside? To be honest I found it all pretty easy. It really isn't as bad as people think it is. I think the hardest thing for me was probably the first few months and the last few. Because that's when you're thinking about being at home. In the beginning you're getting used to being in jail and still thinking about being outside and towards the end you're excited to be going home and can't stop thinking about getting out. All the time in the middle you just kinda get your head down, stop thinking about it so much, and get on with it. Jail is just very boring and very repetitious. Same shit, different day. But you'll get a TV in your cell, access to the library, the gym and you'll be able to work. Take the opportunities available to keep busy and to get out of your cell during the day. It definitely helps to pass the time.

I would definitely say see your kids. You'll want to see them and I'm sure they'll love seeing you. I would suggest your other half visits you the first time without them just so she knows what to expect and it doesn't come as a surprise going thru security and all that. But after that there's no reason for her not to bring your kids. You'll get your own table and chairs and your visitors can bring money to buy snacks and drinks from the shop counter. Visits from the family are the biggest highlight whilst you're in jail. No reason at all to miss out on that.
 
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@Mark29 I feel for you, no time of year is good, but this has to be the worst... hoping you get that miracle you need
 
Main charge is GBH but have 2 other lesser charges as well.



Solicitor reckons I'm looking at 2-4 years with everything so thinking 3 years. I know you only do half vut it still seems a long time with everything else going on as well.

You did a fair bit of time mate. looking at the list of nicks you've been in you could nearly do a whole Trip Advisor thing on prisons. Must have been great getting out for the whole Millenium thing. Was only 9 myself back then!

Thanks for saying it will be alright. What did you find the worse thing about it? I did 6 months in MCTC Colchester when I was in the Army when I was younger so not totally new for me but I know regular prison will be different from that.

Don't know if you had kids back then but what do you think of having them visit me in prison? Not sure if it is a good thig for them or not. I knowI woud like to see them but not sure if it would be good for them to see me there. My oldest lad understands about what is happening and it's
been the hardest thing dealing with him when he was asking why I was a bad man! Also worried about if he might get a hard time at schoo when I get sentenced as am sure it will be in the local papers.

I feel your pain and hope all works out for you. I went through this same thing, was in the local papers and it was horrible for my family.

I got a 3 year 6 month sentence around 7 years ago. Served all my time in jails up north. Hmp marshgate and moorlands closed.

The hardest thing I found was dealing with the pain of what i was putting my family through. You're essentially taking your whole family to jail. It really tested my relationship with my wife and 3 children. I didn't let any of my children visit me because I didn't want them to be exposed to it and I only let my wife visit once a month. Again because i didnt want her to go through the mental torture.

The jail time itself is relatively easy but it depends on which jail you're at. At hmp moorlands closed there was only 2 hours of association a day. One hour in the morning and one hour in the night which included having your dinner in that hour. It was 22 hours a day lockdown. However once you get used to it; it becomes a routine like anything else.

What is portrayed in films and stuff about being bent over is all nonsense in the category c and b jails I was in. This type of stuff is in life jails and category a and double category a jails, which based on yout offences you're unlikely yo go to. If you keep yourself to yourself no one will bother you.

You will probably see fights, stabbings pool balls in socks sugar in boiling water being thrown at people but that's prisoners who have history with each other settling scores inside.

It best to try and find prison employment such as wing cleaner, working in the servery, the gym or the main prison kitchen. You get paid for the work which means more funds for your weekly canteen were you can stock on food which you'll need. But more importantly you get more time out of your cell.

I would also recommend you to take up any offender management courses that the prison offer you. If you eligible for release on curfew it will help your case.

Luckily for me because of the nature of my offences the offender management courses were of no benefit to me and it was recommended i did not need to participate in any. I got in to the routine with in 2 months and the pain of what I was doing to my family became easier. I got employment as a reading mentor teaching people how to read and write so I got extended time out of my cell. I was released early after around 18 months and served time on tag and the rest on licence.

Prison changed my whole life and made my relationship with my wife children and extended family alot stronger and it's made me appreciate the smaller things in life which I never did.

Since prison my life has never been better and I've become a better person and husband.

Employment can be extremely difficult after prison depending on what type of work you're looking for. I am blessed that I had specialist experience in a certain industry and the employer who took me on and am still employed by looked past my criminal record I am forever grateful for that.

I wish you all the best and I'm sure you'll be all good. Stay strong, stay blessed
 
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Stranger things have happened. I was looking at a 5-7 back in 2010 and got off with 300 hours community service and 2 years probation. The fines fella wasn’t even in so no fines either. Luckiest day of my life.

Having said that, expect the worst. Nothing worse than false hope.

That was some result. Presume you were expecting prison when you were going to court and must have been amazing when you only got that. Hope I get a Judge like that. If something like that happens to me I will be the happiest fucker in the country.


@Mark29
Mate i did some time in Colchester back in the army days. If you can cope with that you’ll be fine in civvy hmp’s. They have pods and pens for vaping. Can’t have anything vape related from the outside world with you.
Wishing you well mate.

Yeah think I will be OK inside just thinking about what's happening on the outside. Am sure MCTC is tougher than civvy nicks but was a young lad then and didn't have any responsibilities and in some ways it was just like going back to training. It actually did me good although I didn't think that at the time. I think you can get used to anything if you have to.
 
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