More Capella guidance needed

[stayinwonderland]

So, before I learned about Capella Steeping, I made some banana + french vanilla + cake batter. Vaped it next day and it was like a shot of wheat grass juice. Really powerfully sweet and floral.

Then I learned about steeping and just had my first test after a week and it tastes like strong artificial sweetener and perfume.

Same goes for blueberry cinnamon crumble + cake batter. I get overpowering artificial sweetener + blueberry perfume.

I have rubbished just about every reputable flavour going, so I'm partly wondering if I'm naive in my expectations.

Gonna try vaping my PG juice straight because every single thing I've ever created has tasted like shit.

Thoughts?

I have about 8 more flavour steeping that are due on wednesday but this proves my point that if it tastes like dog piss after 24 hours, it's not gonna come up smelling like roses in a week. It'll just vape like well steeped dog piss.

 

[stayinwonderland]

Update: I just vaped my PG and it does taste very sweet and somewhat perfumy/slightly plastic. Damn.

Now I really need some help here because I want to know if that's normal. Don't suppose someone could do me a favour and vape their PG straight and tell me if it's sweet? lol.

I got one of those 1 litre bottles off ebay a couple months ago and it's been sat at room temp if that makes any difference?

EDIT: just vaped straight Dr. Oetker VG and that has NO flavour/sweetness.

 

[Tim]

Just a thought, are you mixing your combinations as a single juice?

ie are you bunging two or more flavour concentrates in with your AG, PG and nicotine base ?

If so this might be playing a part

Ive had best results mixing the individual flavours into seperate juices, and then combining them.

Another possibility is the percentage of flavour concentrate your using might be a bit high.

Typically I mix at: 20% flavour in a 50:50 mix...

Theres no guarantee that ratio works universally, or with all brands of concentrate, and while I do mix all my own juice I'm no expert, but with TW's Gold Label flavours it seems to work pretty well...

 

[stayinwonderland]

Yeah I mix all at once. I'm pretty sure that's what everyone does because otherwise recipes wouldn't say x drops of bla, y drops of bla. But worth a try... anyone?

But right now I'm really concerned about my PG flavour seeming a bit off.

I've just mixed the following:

4.8ml VG + 7 drops deionised water
15 % flavouring (5 drops CAP banana + 16 drops CAP vanilla custard).

Gonna do a heated steep and test immediately to find that wheatgrass/aspartame flavour and if I don't get it, I'll need to figure out the PG thing and if other people get a sweetness from it (yeah, yeah I know it needs to steep for a week, but like I say, the steep didn't transform my yuck into a win. I reckon a steep can only turn a win into a better win much of the time). If it seems good I'll leave it for a week and test again.

 

[Dopey]

How are you storing your flavours and pg/vg?

 

[Tim]

Being a complete philistine and barbarian, I just mix and vape... Granted I tend to do 100mls at a time so the majority does steep but its not somthing I set out to do...

 

[stayinwonderland]

How are you storing your flavours and pg/vg?

I only got my flavourings a week ago but they're sat on my shelf in my room. PG/VG same. Out of direct sunlight but not stored in the cold/dark.

 

[Dopey]

I store all of mine in an air tight tin, not sure if that's the best way to store but not had a flavour go bad, are you using sweetner like ethyl maltol as that can turn bitter

 

[stayinwonderland]

I store all of mine in an air tight tin, not sure if that's the best way to store but not had a flavour go bad, are you using sweetner like ethyl maltol as that can turn bitter

not a damn thing. Just the bare bones - pg + 2-3 capella flavours at a total of either 15% or 20%

 

[Barracuda]

i have found that some flavours are much more potent than others so if mixing more than one flavour i tend to use my nose as i guide with the flavours, i.e. i know vanilla is a strong flavour so the % is right down etc.
its a balancing act that comes with experience/ trial and error imo, one which i am working on and yet to perfect.
with capella flavours i tend to use 20% max as they are fairly concentrated, more like 16-18% for me.