Nurses to get a pay rise of 1%

[Crewella]

Can i ask the brits here a question actually?

Do u think of the value of an item differently because your money is worth so much compared to a dollar or a euro?

Like someone here mentioned £30,000 as a good salary. I believe that equates to £15 per hour. (Or at least here thats what the numbers work out to in the states)
Anything less than $20-25/hr here and u r struggling if u have kids or anything.

How much is a gallon of milk there? Here it is about $4
A reasonable monthly cell phone bill is $40-45.
A 1 bedroom apartment is gonna b about $750-1000/per month

I think it's hard to judge comparisons. You can get milk at almost half what you quote, but other set ups (like the NHS and not having to pay for health) make the playing field less level. In Eastern Europe under (and just after) communism the wages seemed ridiculously low (to me from the 'West') ............ but then you realised local travel and utilities were incredibly cheap in comparison to ours. I'm not saying they were well off, just that it's not easy to compare directly?

Comparing rents is hard too - doesn't sound that dissimilar to me (not too far from London) but is likely to be less elsewhere.

 

[Jd_]

I think it's hard to judge comparisons. You can get milk at almost half what you quote, but other set ups (like the NHS and not having to pay for health) make the playing field less level. In Eastern Europe under (and just after) communism the wages seemed ridiculously low (to me from the 'West') ............ but then you realised local travel and utilities were incredibly cheap in comparison to ours. I'm not saying they were well off, just that it's not easy to compare directly?

Well, i mean, thats what i was asking.
Your money is worth about 1 and a half more than ours. Do u get paid and is your stuff 1 and a half cheaper than ours. Or do u just have to pay more for things like rent for instance.

I can get a no-frills cell plan for $15, but a reasonable price is about 40

I can find a $500 per month 1 bedroom apartment, but it will not b a pleasant living situation, lol. 750 is more typical, 1000 for a nice one

 

[Crewella]

Well, i mean, thats what i was asking.
Your money is worth about 1 and a half more than ours. Do u get paid and is your stuff 1 and a half cheaper than ours. Or do u just have to pay more for things like rent for instance.

I can get a no-frills cell plan for $15, but a reasonable price is about 40

I can find a $500 per month 1 bedroom apartment, but it will not b a pleasant living situation, lol. 750 is more typical, 1000 for a nice one

Do these help?

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/100214/what-cost-living-difference-between-us-and-uk.asp

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livi...ountry1=United+States&country2=United+Kingdom

 

[zouzounaki]

i think it varies from one thing to another. americans can get big stacks of pancakes in a diner for breakfast, whereas here we can break our leg and get it fixed for free.

 

[vapesmarter]

I'm torn because I'm part of this

do I want a pay rise?

that's a hard one the NHS is a huge concern pay rises across the board or in certain areas but as I've said it's not just the NHS all Health sectors are connected its not just your casualty nurse that people see on the telly in her blue uniform its all the other areas connected so you have social care, community care, district nurses, mental health, specialist services plus care homes which were devastated in the height of lockdown the staff there watched people they knew for years die not faces that have come in but people that they tried to keep safe with no PPE it was a flip of a coin who lived who died.

some of my local ones locked right down I know some of the girls they slept there and lived in a caravan for 4 months not seeing there own children they get paid based on NHS rates.

when my father was ill the district nurse came to see him but they couldn't administer the jabs he had to have, I could as I was trained to, so they asked me to admin and they witnessed, it was red tape bullshit but never the less from what was easy to do, now has turned into a cash cow with private sectors specializing in certain areas.

Scotland gave there care workers a £500 bonus.... England didn't

but you also have all the other charities and private sector all base their rates on NHS salary so the staff and many are either ex nurses in the NHS or staff trained in areas that the NHS don't cater for

as per usual Boris has just thrown a hand grenade in, I'm fed up with being treated by this government like I'm a fool you can't say there is no money but then spend millions on redecorating his flat

do I want a pay rise no I want an escape plan the plan was working but now with food becoming more expensive and shops still not open people are just holding onto money?

 

[zouzounaki]

I'm torn because I'm part of this

do I want a pay rise?

that's a hard one the NHS is a huge concern pay rises across the board or in certain areas but as I've said it's not just the NHS all Health sectors are connected its not just your casualty nurse that people see on the telly in her blue uniform its all the other areas connected so you have social care, community care, district nurses, mental health, specialist services plus care homes which were devastated in the height of lockdown the staff there watched people they knew for years die not faces that have come in but people that they tried to keep safe with no PPE it was a flip of a coin who lived who died.

some of my local ones locked right down I know some of the girls they slept there and lived in a caravan for 4 months not seeing there own children they get paid based on NHS rates.

when my father was ill the district nurse came to see him but they couldn't administer the jabs he had to have, I could as I was trained to, so they asked me to admin and they witnessed, it was red tape bullshit but never the less from what was easy to do, now has turned into a cash cow with private sectors specializing in certain areas.

Scotland gave there care workers a £500 bonus.... England didn't

but you also have all the other charities and private sector all base their rates on NHS salary so the staff and many are either ex nurses in the NHS or staff trained in areas that the NHS don't cater for

as per usual Boris has just thrown a hand grenade in, I'm fed up with being treated by this government like I'm a fool you can't say there is no money but then spend millions on redecorating his flat

do I want a pay rise no I want an escape plan the plan was working but now with food becoming more expensive and shops still not open people are just holding onto money?

you deserve and should get a decent wage rise. your wages have dropped in real terms by about 10% since 2010.

 

[Jd_]

Do these help?

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/100214/what-cost-living-difference-between-us-and-uk.asp

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livi...ountry1=United+States&country2=United+Kingdom

Yeah, the second one. Thats interesting, especially bout rent and food. Especially since we have way more of both

 

[Jd_]

I'm torn because I'm part of this

do I want a pay rise?

that's a hard one the NHS is a huge concern pay rises across the board or in certain areas but as I've said it's not just the NHS all Health sectors are connected its not just your casualty nurse that people see on the telly in her blue uniform its all the other areas connected so you have social care, community care, district nurses, mental health, specialist services plus care homes which were devastated in the height of lockdown the staff there watched people they knew for years die not faces that have come in but people that they tried to keep safe with no PPE it was a flip of a coin who lived who died.

some of my local ones locked right down I know some of the girls they slept there and lived in a caravan for 4 months not seeing there own children they get paid based on NHS rates.

when my father was ill the district nurse came to see him but they couldn't administer the jabs he had to have, I could as I was trained to, so they asked me to admin and they witnessed, it was red tape bullshit but never the less from what was easy to do, now has turned into a cash cow with private sectors specializing in certain areas.

Scotland gave there care workers a £500 bonus.... England didn't

but you also have all the other charities and private sector all base their rates on NHS salary so the staff and many are either ex nurses in the NHS or staff trained in areas that the NHS don't cater for

as per usual Boris has just thrown a hand grenade in, I'm fed up with being treated by this government like I'm a fool you can't say there is no money but then spend millions on redecorating his flat

do I want a pay rise no I want an escape plan the plan was working but now with food becoming more expensive and shops still not open people are just holding onto money?

Remember u r not asking for a raise, u r defending against what is effectively a pay cut.

And considering how hospitals love to understaff, they should at least pay the ones they do staff.

Edit: i should phrase that differently, u r accepting less of a pay cut

-last part removed-

 

[vapesmarter]

you deserve and should get a decent wage rise. your wages have dropped in real terms by about 10% since 2010.

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Nuffield and Bupa etc all pay really well but the trouble is they are not strictly A&E setting they specialize in areas to speed up recovery and diagnosis it depends on how deep your wallet is I know people who have private health care go to Nuffield big private rooms tellys nice coffee no waiting but I also did know ex-pats that came back to the UK to have Chemo treatment on the NHS

 

[zouzounaki]

Nuffield and Bupa etc all pay really well but the trouble is they are not strictly A&E setting they specialize in areas to speed up recovery and diagnosis it depends on how deep your wallet is I know people who have private health care go to Nuffield big private rooms tellys nice coffee no waiting but I also did know ex-pats that came back to the UK to have Chemo treatment on the NHS

i know of a couple of folk who’ve worked in the private sector and eventually went back to the nhs. money isn’t the only factor, or even always the main one. but still, that’s a big gap.