Rose V2 clone now in UK - £26!!

[sparkyjuice]

£70ish for an atty, yes. The Morr Cran is a delightful bit of craftmanship made by a bloke in his shed and deserving of the price point which I would also accept as reasonable. Whether the wife would is another story lol.

The subject of this thread, however, is something designed and then shipped out for CNC work to be done, so that is not craftmanship. Good design, yes maybe, craftmanship no.

Fair point re cnc made devices
Getting back on thread I have looked at the rose and honestly if I were in the market for an atty of this general type I would buy an estia
Which by the way is also around £100 mark
Rose is £130 but you get tools etc and spare inserts
Looking at these prices then I feel the mark up for a rose is probably not that great


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[bronbunbet]

Clones may be stopped being sold in the UK but this will not be anything to do with Paypal I can assure you.

If it does happen it will be between the original maker and the reseller and a legal battle.

But every manufacturer will have to contact each independent reseller one at a time, start with a genuine letter requesting removal of said products from website within a time frame and if the reseller doesn’t play ball then proceed with legal action.

Do you know how much this venture would cost?
Taking that many resellers through court?

If they win, that is one clone taken out from UK resellers.
Each reseller has an arsenal of clones, RBAs, RDAs, mechs, boxes, you name it and they are there.

So now think ludicrously, say every genuine manufacture, managed to restrict UK businesses from selling clones.

Then you have dozens of people importing from China and selling through eBay, Facebook, Gumtree, Amazon and other forums.

Clones are here to stay, I would bet my bollocks on it.

No doubting China will always do as they see fit but I can't word it any better than blatantly advertising clones (copies) and 1:1's in the UK will be a lot harder soon if offering PayPal as a form of payment.
Debate away to be continued it say what you may that will happen on this here island with UK vendors.

 

[blademansw]

Clones are here to stay, I would bet my bollocks on it.

I would bet your bollocks on it as well :-)

 

[Mr.Motivapr]

I've only had the Rose for 6 days and I make no claim to be an expert builder, but I'm thoroughly underwhelmed with it.

Putting the same juice in a Spheroid, Heron, Russian and Aerotank, in terms of vapour and flavour comparison the Rose comes last. I expected so much more from the hype, the build quality of the clone is very good indeed, so it all reinforces a policy of try (clone) before you buy (original). I would feel pretty gutted if I'd spent more than the £23 that I did.

Maybe it'll come good yet. The Russian 91% took weeks of fettling and a set of authentic KFL+ o-rings before it really started to perform. Same kind of story with the Heron. Maybe microcoil and cotton is not the best set up for the Rose, not for me anyway.

The learning process is part of the fun, which is why this site is fun. Just a shame that all this clone banter gets some people's knackers in a twist.

You must be doing something wrong bud, what build are you using?

No matter what build I throw in the rose it just blows me away.

The only fiddly bit is the legs through the ceramic but only takes a few tries and boom!

No leaks, no dry hits, great vapour and really refined flavour.

One of the few genuine articles I wouldn’t be disappointed if I purchased.

 

[stryker]

Thank God for clones else I'd still be on stinkies.... funny how I'm happy to dribble money out my pocket for stinkies each day but principally object to shelling out £150 for a little pipe to hold a battery.

 

[5miley]

scrumpox

Stick with it ... well worth the effort.
At one point I did consider passing on my Rose v2

IMHO The Rose v2 sits above the Kayfun and Taifun but below the Heron and Flash-E-Vape in terms of flavour production

 

[blademansw]

No doubting China will always do as they see fit but I can't word it any better than blatantly advertising clones (copies) and 1:1's in the UK will be a lot harder soon if offering PayPal as a form of payment.
Debate away to be continued it say what you may that will happen on this here island with UK vendors.

I wish every luck to the original manufacturers with that game of whack a mole.

 

[blademansw]

@scrumpox

Stick with it ... well worth the effort.
At one point I did consider passing on my Rose v2

IMHO The Rose v2 sits above the Kayfun and Taifun but below the Heron and Flash-E-Vape in terms of flavour production

The Rose is good, but an over engineered solution to a problem that doesn't exist. Pigfuck to build though.

But

Interestingly

I built my (geniune £27) Aga T7 last night at around 0.45 ohm and its fucking incredible.

 

[Danny K]

@scrumpox

Stick with it ... well worth the effort.
At one point I did consider passing on my Rose v2

IMHO The Rose v2 sits above the Kayfun and Taifun but below the Heron and Flash-E-Vape in terms of flavour production

I gave mine two days and that was exactly 47 hours more than it deserved.

 

[scrumpox]

@scrumpox

Stick with it ... well worth the effort.
At one point I did consider passing on my Rose v2

IMHO The Rose v2 sits above the Kayfun and Taifun but below the Heron and Flash-E-Vape in terms of flavour production

Cheers, oh I will ... this Taff won't let some English-designed, over-engineered shiny get the better of him ...

The microcoil and cotton is coming out, the Ekowool and Kanthal is waiting for the next build. Mostly put up a nice build pic, I'll have a go at that.