Unravelling the TPD, A vapers attempt to understand article 20.

[Crewella]

I've got a restraining video around here somewhere that shows a hip replacement amongst other ops, all I can say is i wanna be out fucking cold if i need one.

I've had several hip replacement ops (I smashed myself up in my late teens) and once made the mistake of watching a video like that the night before I went in ......... OH nearly had to knock me out to drag me in there!

 

[ned]

on a related but slightly different note

Conscious sedation

the clue is in the name but i was to dumb to see it a few years back.you are not sedated you just dont remember what they did to you. used to love it for having dental work done due to a massive dentist phobia until i learnt i wernt 'out of it'.

need to have another tooth pulled under it but have been avoiding it as much as i can because the fact im still awake and talking scares me to fuck.

 

[Rizzyking]

Time to stock up on nic liquid while we can because it will be hit by tpd but the point about our government not being overly keen on the tpd is valid and I don't expect enforcement of it to be very active meaning that purchasing outside the EU like from China is unlikely to be hit too hard. My biggest concern is not so much this incoming legislation but tpd 2 (for want of a better name) which they are working on now and that could be the one that basically kills vaping within the eu, luckily for us Brits we will have an in\out referendum before that comes in and I hope we vote to come out of the EU sparing us anymore ridiculous legislation like this in future.

 

[stewbacca]

on a related but slightly different note

Conscious sedation

the clue is in the name but i was to dumb to see it a few years back.you are not sedated you just dont remember what they did to you. used to love it for having dental work done due to a massive dentist phobia until i learnt i wernt 'out of it'.

need to have another tooth pulled under it but have been avoiding it as much as i can because the fact im still awake and talking scares me to fuck.

Yep, I used to work with a lady who needed a camera inserting a long way into one of her orifices, apparently they injected her with midazolam, she sat there for a bit, turned to the person doing the procedure and said "are we going to do this then" their reply "nope, already done". Unfortunately drugs like that are all controlled drugs now as they were widely used for date rape.

Also we use it as a rapid tranq at work when there are supply problems with the fast acting benzos and antipsychotics are unavailable. It will calm down the patient a treat, but they have a tenancy to wake up in exactly the same state they were in that required them to be given the drug in the first place.

 

[ned]

Yep, I used to work with a lady who needed a camera inserting a long way into one of her orifices, apparently they injected her with midazolam, she sat there for a bit, turned to the person doing the procedure and said "are we going to do this then" their reply "nope, already done". Unfortunately drugs like that are all controlled drugs now as they were widely used for date rape.

Also we use it as a rapid tranq at work when there are supply problems with the fast acting benzos and antipsychotics are unavailable. It will calm down the patient a treat, but they have a tenancy to wake up in exactly the same state they were in that required them to be given the drug in the first place.

we use?

please elaborate.

 

[stewbacca]

@ned Sorry, I'm a pharmacy tech in a medium secure psychiatric unit, I supply the drugs, don't administer them.

 

[Tubbyengineer]

we use?

please elaborate.

My Guess would be Stewbacca works at a Secure Mental Health Unit... My brother in Law works at the one where they keep Ian Brady...

Ha, mental block over - It's Ashworth...

 

[ned]

@ned Sorry, I'm a pharmacy tech in a medium secure psychiatric unit, I supply the drugs, don't administer them.

no need for the sorry fella. so is that the drug they stick in you that turns you into a physical zombie when you kick off?

My Guess would be Stewbacca works at a Secure Mental Health Unit... My brother in Law works at the one where they keep Ian Brady...

Ha, mental block over - It's Ashworth...

just goes to show that the media talks shit,according to everything ive read/heard about him he was in in general population as he refused to play the MH ticket.

 

[stewbacca]

@ned there are several that are commonly used, oral meds are usually the first choice but if the intended recipiant is unwilling to take oral then it's an IM injection. First line is a fast acting benzodiazapine, usually lorazepam, if that's unsucessful and the patient has had them before it'll be an antipsycotic, usually haloperidol, risperidone (oral) or aripiprazole. Occasionally olanzapine, but no one in the UK makes it so cost becomes prohibitive. In extreme cases Accuphase will be used (a fast acting, long duration version of zuclopentixol) is used but that is only really a last resort, effects can last up to 48 hours and often during this time a (new) antipsychotic, often a long acting zuclopentixol depot injection will be commenced.

 

[ned]

@ned there are several that are commonly used, oral meds are usually the first choice but if the intended recipiant is unwilling to take oral then it's an IM injection. First line is a fast acting benzodiazapine, usually lorazepam, if that's unsucessful and the patient has had them before it'll be an antipsycotic, usually haloperidol, risperidone (oral) or aripiprazole. Occasionally olanzapine, but no one in the UK makes it so cost becomes prohibitive. In extreme cases Accuphase will be used (a fast acting, long duration version of zuclopentixol) is used but that is only really a last resort, effects can last up to 48 hours and often during this time a (new) antipsychotic, often a long acting zuclopentixol depot injection will be commenced.

cheers always good to learn