What's going on with the ELiquid Market?

[Chris K]

Anyone want to rent a 10ml bottle that i will forget to empty?


Forgot to add ill rent it out for 33p and free same day delivery.

Now that was a classic!!!

 

[Phil M]

I hate 99.999% of juice I try. I made my own for a while until I found a brand I liked. I now vape 4 flavours from that brand exclusively and don't even bother trying anything else. But I would never even buy a £1 bottle of juice. Like most things, you get what you pay for. I have no problem paying a premium price for my juice because it is a premium juice and a premium vendor. I know what I'm getting. It's top quality and I'm prepared to pay for that just like I'm prepared to pay for other top quality items. I buy nice wine not cheap wine, I like nice food not the budget range. Bottom line is there's juice out there to satisfy every vaper with regard to budget and taste. Don't like it, don't buy it. But it's pretty crazy, imho, to expect all manufacturers to sell their products at the same cheap prices just because cheaper, poorer quality juices are available on the market. Should I expect my wine merchant to sell me a bottle of premium, expensive wine just because they also stock a budget range and "it's all made the same way"? Of course not. It's all about choice. I buy premium juice and will never buy cheap budget juice. Others are the total opposite. We're all free to buy and vape whatever we like. We have that option because the availablity is there to satisfy every niche of the market.

As usual this has to go to extremes, I personally never suggested anybody should be prohibited from doing anything that they want to do, but it don’t buy it, I’m not the e liquid police, in my opinion I think 10 ml for a fiver is expensive, I’m entitled to my opinion as everyone else is entitled to theirs, I’m quite happy for people to disagree, although there is a tendency from some people, not you, to try and make people feel like idiots for voicing an alternate opinion, thankfully I’ve got thick skin and don’t bow down to the bullshit

 

[Simon G]

in my opinion I think 10 ml for a fiver is expensive, I’m entitled to my opinion as everyone else is entitled to theirs

sure, that's fine but I'm still interested in what you think would be a fair retail price? ... for your typical 10ml TPD compliant bottle.

 

[Mitz]

As usual this has to go to extremes, I personally never suggested anybody should be prohibited from doing anything that they want to do, but it don’t buy it, I’m not the e liquid police, in my opinion I think 10 ml for a fiver is expensive, I’m entitled to my opinion as everyone else is entitled to theirs, I’m quite happy for people to disagree, although there is a tendency from some people, not you, to try and make people feel like idiots for voicing an alternate opinion, thankfully I’ve got thick skin and don’t bow down to the bullshit

I don't see anything as extreme. And I don't see why this topic has to be an argument between anyone or why anyone should be made to feel like an idiot. It's idle chat on a forum. As I said in my post I think both ends of the spectrum should be available to satisfy the whole market. I'm a really fussy fecker and like 4 juices out of the hundreds I've tried. So to me it's worth the cost. To satisfy everyone you have to have both premium and non premium available. Simple as that. And there will always be premium and non premium products in every market. I don't think it's a big deal. And certainly nothing to argue about. I'm just talking. Everybody is entitled to their opinion and to buy whatever they like. Simple as that for me.

 

[Phil M]

sure, that's fine but I'm still interested in what you think would be a fair retail price? ... for your typical 10ml TPD compliant bottle.

Is there really any point In me answering? Just so you can pull it to bits with, research this, development that. We aren’t going to agree are we, it’s not like you’re suddenly going to say yes! I think you’re right! 3 quid, there you go, I’m getting dirty looks now, I’m sat on the lat pull down typing this

 

[Phil M]

I don't see anything as extreme. And I don't see why this topic has to be an argument between anyone or why anyone should be made to feel like an idiot. It's idle chat on a forum. As I said in my post I think both ends of the spectrum should be available to satisfy the whole market. I'm a really fussy fecker and like 4 juices out of the hundreds I've tried. So to me it's worth the cost. To satisfy everyone you have to have both premium and non premium available. Simple as that. And there will always be premium and non premium products in every market. I don't think it's a big deal. And certainly nothing to argue about. I'm just talking. Everybody is entitled to their opinion and to buy whatever they like. Simple as that for me.

I don’t even buy the bloody stuff!

 

[Phil M]

I don’t even buy the bloody stuff!

It was basically a witch hunt for poor old nick last night, the only reason I made a comment

 

[Mr Ripple]

As usual this has to go to extremes, I personally never suggested anybody should be prohibited from doing anything that they want to do, but it don’t buy it, I’m not the e liquid police, in my opinion I think 10 ml for a fiver is expensive, I’m entitled to my opinion as everyone else is entitled to theirs, I’m quite happy for people to disagree, although there is a tendency from some people, not you, to try and make people feel like idiots for voicing an alternate opinion, thankfully I’ve got thick skin and don’t bow down to the bullshit

I too think £5 for ten ml is expensive which is why i make my own juice.
I am extremely happy with the quality and flavours of my juice which are now inexpensive for me to make.
(Checks over shoulder to make sure swmbo aint looking what im typing)
But ive spent a fortune on flavourings to get where i am now.
I have even in the begining purchased a 25ltr barrel of VG to experiment with.
Ive sold some to mates along the way and still do but only for a very small profit so im not doing it for nothing.
If i was constantly developing different juices and flavours to sell on my wastage would return back to what it was when i first started making my own and that cost would be passed on to whoever liked my juice enough to buy it.

If you have such an issue paying proper money for proper juice you do have a choice as did i.

 

[Phil M]

I too think £5 for ten ml is expensive which is why i make my own juice.
I am extremely happy with the quality and flavours of my juice which are now inexpensive for me to make.
(Checks over shoulder to make sure swmbo aint looking what im typing)
But ive spent a fortune on flavourings to get where i am now.
I have even in the begining purchased a 25ltr barrel of VG to experiment with.
Ive sold some to mates along the way and still do but only for a very small profit so im not doing it for nothing.
If i was constantly developing different juices and flavours to sell on my wastage would return back to what it was when i first started making my own and that cost would be passed on to whoever liked my juice enough to buy it.

If you have such an issue paying proper money for proper juice you do have a choice as did i.

I do make my own, with some advice from some good guys and girls on here, found 3 or 4 I really like, I don’t even buy pre made anymore, just thought I’d express my opinion same as you that 5 quid is, in my eyes, expensive

 

[Mitz]

It was basically a witch hunt for poor old nick last night, the only reason I made a comment

No idea mate. Wasn't on this thread last night and tried reading it today but was too long and didn't interest me enough so read every 5th page or so. None of it matters mate. Like it, buy it. Don't like it, don't buy it. If people think its too expensive, fair play. People think its cheap, fair play. In the grand scheme it doesn't matter. As I said its just idle chitchat. Nothing to argue about. I must've missed the Nick part as I jumped thru the thread. What was the problem? I can't be arsed to read thru the whole thread.