Rukaguy
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Just some maths I did from another topic that a newbie added
NB: One Shots/Shake and Vape are generic names for large bottles with the correct amount of concentrate contained in it, to be made up at home with your own nicotine/VG/PG to create a ready-to-steep or vape flavour such as these.
Many people want to have a cost comparison for DIY Mixing. This will probably not help any seasoned mixologist, but it may shed some light on some new 'One Shot Concentrate' economics; products that seem to be popping up everywhere. I envisage the TPD driving more and more people to mixing their own eJuice.
I personally use a lot of DripHack's stuff which is super easy to make up... and comes up as £8.50 for the 50ml concentrate which would make around 250ml of juice approx, but again you would have to add your own PG/VG and Nicotine - but this is so easy to do. It turns out to be a MASSIVE saving. My whole family use them. I buy the VG and PG cheap off eBay or Amazon from sellers I use frequently.
DarkStarVapour, DripWorx, DripHacks, Flavour Boss etc all produce similar products in terms of 'One Shots'.
I bought the nicotine prior to the TPD - so I have litres stored up frozen, but seeing as I use 3-4% as my strength - these last FOREVER... it's like 10-14ml per 250ml of eJuice... It was around £63 for 2000ml which is around 3p per ml.
There are still websites where you can obtain full-strength nicotine I believe... It's probably more expensive now.
I've mixed for around four years and you have to have certain things such as syringes, gloves, bottles etc, but these are cheap and reusable, so they're a small add-on to your cost.
The original poster cited they used 40ml of eJuice per week at roughly £15 per 30ml of their preferred juice.
I use 3-4% nicotine as my strength which is around 10-14ml per 250ml of eliquid (72mg/ml nicotine)
Some maths
- 2000ml of Nicotine 72mg/ml / 14 = Could be used to make 142 x 250ml eJuic - so you probs don't need 2L of it, depending on what you're vaping! I bought 2L for around £63 at the time - so that is 42p per 250ml if 3p per ml of Nic...
- £15 for 2L of VG/PG (probs best purchasing VG and PG separately mind...) / 250 = 8 x 250ml eJuice = £1.87 per 250ml
- £8.50 for the 50ml concentrate to make 250ml (DripHacks or similar)
eg) Probably around £10 for 250ml of eJuice - and this is from the more 'expensive' concs at around 20% mixing.
- So if you're saying £15 for 30ml - this is 50p per ml of eLiquid... which is crazy when you think about it.
- Making it yourself will probably be 4p per ml which is... a 92% difference? (plus your nic)
- So 40ml per week would cost you... £1.60 per week on average.
- Even if your nicotine was very expensive, this is liable to be a huge saving in the long run.
(*Haven't really accounted for more 'expensive' nicotine here I guess, post TPD - but I'm sure you could find a cheap source of it AT THE MOMENT...)
Obviously, the price is not the only factor - flavours, accessibility etc - but I have found certain companies exceed expectations and have excellent premium quality 'one-shot' concentrates but by saving money like this, you could also invest in new hardware, new flavours etc...
I just imagine that due to TPD and increased regulations, whilst this method of acquiring eJuice lasts, it's probably best to get acquainted and get down to making your own. Otherwise, we might all be in for a very expensive journey....
Of course, the cost may vary slightly, but the current massive savings are incontrovertible. I would love to see even more innovations and recipes produced by these websites.
NB: One Shots/Shake and Vape are generic names for large bottles with the correct amount of concentrate contained in it, to be made up at home with your own nicotine/VG/PG to create a ready-to-steep or vape flavour such as these.
Many people want to have a cost comparison for DIY Mixing. This will probably not help any seasoned mixologist, but it may shed some light on some new 'One Shot Concentrate' economics; products that seem to be popping up everywhere. I envisage the TPD driving more and more people to mixing their own eJuice.
I personally use a lot of DripHack's stuff which is super easy to make up... and comes up as £8.50 for the 50ml concentrate which would make around 250ml of juice approx, but again you would have to add your own PG/VG and Nicotine - but this is so easy to do. It turns out to be a MASSIVE saving. My whole family use them. I buy the VG and PG cheap off eBay or Amazon from sellers I use frequently.
DarkStarVapour, DripWorx, DripHacks, Flavour Boss etc all produce similar products in terms of 'One Shots'.
I bought the nicotine prior to the TPD - so I have litres stored up frozen, but seeing as I use 3-4% as my strength - these last FOREVER... it's like 10-14ml per 250ml of eJuice... It was around £63 for 2000ml which is around 3p per ml.
There are still websites where you can obtain full-strength nicotine I believe... It's probably more expensive now.
I've mixed for around four years and you have to have certain things such as syringes, gloves, bottles etc, but these are cheap and reusable, so they're a small add-on to your cost.
The original poster cited they used 40ml of eJuice per week at roughly £15 per 30ml of their preferred juice.
I use 3-4% nicotine as my strength which is around 10-14ml per 250ml of eliquid (72mg/ml nicotine)
Some maths
- 2000ml of Nicotine 72mg/ml / 14 = Could be used to make 142 x 250ml eJuic - so you probs don't need 2L of it, depending on what you're vaping! I bought 2L for around £63 at the time - so that is 42p per 250ml if 3p per ml of Nic...
- £15 for 2L of VG/PG (probs best purchasing VG and PG separately mind...) / 250 = 8 x 250ml eJuice = £1.87 per 250ml
- £8.50 for the 50ml concentrate to make 250ml (DripHacks or similar)
eg) Probably around £10 for 250ml of eJuice - and this is from the more 'expensive' concs at around 20% mixing.
- So if you're saying £15 for 30ml - this is 50p per ml of eLiquid... which is crazy when you think about it.
- Making it yourself will probably be 4p per ml which is... a 92% difference? (plus your nic)
- So 40ml per week would cost you... £1.60 per week on average.
- Even if your nicotine was very expensive, this is liable to be a huge saving in the long run.
(*Haven't really accounted for more 'expensive' nicotine here I guess, post TPD - but I'm sure you could find a cheap source of it AT THE MOMENT...)
Obviously, the price is not the only factor - flavours, accessibility etc - but I have found certain companies exceed expectations and have excellent premium quality 'one-shot' concentrates but by saving money like this, you could also invest in new hardware, new flavours etc...
I just imagine that due to TPD and increased regulations, whilst this method of acquiring eJuice lasts, it's probably best to get acquainted and get down to making your own. Otherwise, we might all be in for a very expensive journey....
Of course, the cost may vary slightly, but the current massive savings are incontrovertible. I would love to see even more innovations and recipes produced by these websites.