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5 Pawns delisted by Cloud 9 after tests show record levels of Diacetyl

Hey ned, no offence taken bro, actually made me chuckle and check my spelling (still not sure it's right [emoji2]). [emoji222]
 
There's must be hundreds of juice and concentrate makers out there, surely this is only the opening move in this game of chess.
 
liquid is designed on a molecular level

Brilliant :D

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Like many others I am all for testing, it`s easy enough to say have it standardised, but surely that is then going to need an independant company to monitor the situation,that in itself will cost money,so where does that come from? If the FP saga is anything to go by then it`s all too little too late imo.With liquids coming in from all parts of the globe there will be far too much arguing as to which testing method is correct,which figures are deemed safe or not safe.But what really confuses me is,what the fuck is a Moran? :D
 
I can believe that their "liquid is designed on a molecular level"..........can't you?....:diy:

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Mod hat off, member hat on.
You know what I find really strange through, (and I'm just saying this as a conversation point and nothing more) I can't for the life of me understand why Cloud9 vaping have taken their post down and state they are taking legal advice.

Surely, surely any vendor, particularly one with the experience Cloud9 has would know how explosive news like this would be in the vaping world and anticipate that 5P would take legal action?

If it was me in that scenario, I would have checked and rechecked my findings, had the wording thoroughly checked out legally, and got my ducks in a row, especially if I knew that I was going up against a major player with such deep pockets. If I couldn't afford to do this, then I would have done exactly what they did initially and refuse to stock their products.

I can only conclude that cloud9 were doing this from the right place in their hearts and informing vapers of the danger they think they've found. Unfortunately, by posting something up and then taking it down again on has simply created confusion. It also probably disengaged a lot of vapers on the subject of what's in their liquids, cos feck it now nobody trusts anyones results anyway.

I worry that this will have unintended consequences, and it's the vendors that are doing it right by investing in good equipment and processes that will get the shitty end of the stick when all this settles. Their investment may not provide some vapers with the reassurance they are looking for anymore, wiping out any market incentive to raise standards generally and gives band wagoners another foot in the door.

I also hope I'm completely wrong and I'm just in a bad mood.


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Interesting to see how differently the C9V results have been viewed as opposed to the Vapourshark ones.

I appreciate that C9V are a vendor not a manufacturer and have a great rep, but it is still a widely different attitude being displayed

Cause C9V aint as big as V.Shark, so easier to go after.
 
Cause C9V aint as big as V.Shark, so easier to go after.

I think he meant in relation to it being the other way round : i.e., why are people more accepting of the CV9 statement than VS's
 
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