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So you’re, at the very best, guessing. But it could be just as accurately called making stuff up.

There’s more likelihood that some MPs and some mover s and shakers, in U.K. business, are involved in the import and growing of cannabis .
And neither is in any way likely.

There is an imperative in our law enforcement though. The war on Grass, is a handy way to cover up racism. As two of our top athletes found, just recently found.
So comes with bottomless funding.
This could go on forever and ever, Although sadly i have a business to run in the UK, So if you don't mind i will go off and do just that. But eh for the record i certainly would not say that i am "Just Making Stuff Up" As you put it. Have a great day now :D.
 
Not sure where you're getting your millions of users from?

Quick Google search shows from 2018 to 2022 there were around 100,000 prescriptions issued for licensed and unlicensed cannabis products and as of 2023 it's estimated there are around 25,000 people using medical cannabis.
 
Then you have Doctors prescribing it to patients as-well.
GPs arent allowed to prescribe cannabis products

Medical cannabis (and cannabis oils)​

"Medical cannabis" is a broad term for any sort of cannabis-based medicine used to relieve symptoms.
Many cannabis-based products are available to buy online, but their quality and content is not known. They may be illegal in the UK and potentially dangerous.
Some products that might claim to be medical cannabis, such as CBD oil or hemp oil, are available to buy legally as food supplements from health stores. But there's no guarantee these are of good quality or provide any health benefits.
Specific cannabis-based products are available on prescription as medicinal cannabis. These are only likely to benefit a very small number of patients.

Can I get a prescription for medical cannabis?​

Very few people in England are likely to get an NHS prescription for medical cannabis.
Currently, it is only likely to be prescribed for the following conditions:
It would only be considered when other treatments were not suitable or had not helped.

Epidyolex for children and adults with epilepsy​

Epidyolex is a highly purified liquid containing CBD (cannabidiol).
CBD is a chemical substance found in cannabis that has medical benefits.
It will not get you high, because it does not contain THC (tetrahydrocannabinol), the chemical in cannabis that makes you high.
Epidyolex can be prescribed by a specialist for patients with Lennox-Gastaut syndrome and Dravet syndrome (both rare forms of epilepsy).

Nabilone for chemotherapy patients​

Many people having chemotherapy will have periods where they feel sick or vomit.
Nabilone can be prescribed to adults by a specialist to help relieve these symptoms, but only when other treatments have not helped or are not suitable.
Nabilone is a medicine, taken as a capsule, that has been developed to act in a similar way to THC (the chemical in cannabis that makes you high). You may have heard it described as a "manmade form of cannabis".

Nabiximols (Sativex) for multiple sclerosis (MS)​

Nabiximols (Sativex) is a cannabis-based medicine that is sprayed into the mouth.
It is licensed in the UK for adults with MS-related muscle spasticity that has not got better with other treatments.
Read more from the MS Society on Sativex for treating muscle stiffness and spasms

Long-term pain​

There is some evidence medical cannabis can help certain types of pain, though this evidence is not yet strong enough to recommend it for pain relief.
In some cases, however, it may be prescribed for pain as part of a clinical trial.

What about products available to buy?​

Some cannabis-based products are available to buy over the internet without a prescription.
It's likely most of these products – even those called CBD oils – will be illegal to possess or supply. There's a good chance they will contain THC, and may not be safe to use.
Health stores sell certain types of CBD. However, there's no guarantee these products will be of good quality.
They tend to only contain very small amounts of CBD, so it's not clear what effect they would have.

Is medical cannabis safe?​

The risks of using cannabis products containing THC (the chemical that gets you high) are not currently clear. That's why clinical trials are needed before they can be used. Products that only contain CBD, such as Epidyolex, do not carry these unknown risks linked with THC.
But in reality, most products will contain a certain amount of THC.
The potential risks of THC cannabis products are:
  • psychosis – there is evidence that regular cannabis use in some people can increase the risk of developing a psychotic illness such as schizophrenia
  • dependency on the medicine – although scientists believe this risk is probably small when its use is controlled and monitored by a specialist doctor
Generally, the more THC the product contains, the greater these risks are.
Cannabis bought illegally off the street, where the quality, ingredients and strength are not known, is the most dangerous form to use.
Read about the risks of regularly smoking cannabis at Talk to Frank

What are the side effects?​

Depending on the type of medical cannabis you take, it's possible to develop side effects such as:
  • decreased appetite
  • diarrhoea
  • feeling sick
  • weakness
  • a behavioural or mood change
  • dizziness
  • feeling very tired
  • feeling high
  • hallucinations
  • suicidal thoughts
If you experience any side effects from medical cannabis, report these to your medical team. You can also report them through the Yellow Card Scheme.
CBD and THC can affect how other medicines work. Always discuss possible interactions with a specialist.
CBD can also affect how your liver works, so doctors would need to monitor you regularly.

How do I get a prescription?

Cannabis-based medicine can only be prescribed on the NHS by a specialist hospital doctor, or under a specialist's supervision.
And it is only likely to be prescribed for a small number of patients.
A hospital specialist might consider prescribing medical cannabis:

  • for epilepsy – if you (or your child) have one of the rare forms of epilepsy that might be helped by medical cannabis
  • for MS – if you have spasticity from MS and other treatments for this are not helping
  • for chemotherapy – if you are vomiting or feeling sick from chemotherapy and other anti-sickness treatments are not helping
The specialist will discuss with you all the other treatment options first, before considering a cannabis-based product.
A prescription for medical cannabis would only be given when it was believed to be in your best interests, and when other treatments had not worked or were not suitable.
It's expected this would only apply to a very small number of people in England.
If the above does not apply to you, do not ask a GP for a referral for medical cannabis.


How do I prove I have a prescription?​

Keep your medicine in its original packaging, as the dispensing label contains important information about the medicine and the person it’s prescribed for.
The dispensing label is the label the pharmacist puts on the medicine packet when they give you your prescription medicine.
You should also keep a copy of your prescription, and a letter (if you have one) from the doctor who prescribed the medicine. The letter should include your personal details (including name and address), as well as the prescribing doctor’s name and contact details.
You may need to show ID that matches the details on the dispensing label and the prescription, or the doctor’s letter, if you have one.
Acceptable forms of ID include:
  • valid passport
  • photo driving licence
  • proof of age card, such as a PASS card from the national Proof of Age Standards Scheme
Information:
If you need any legal advice about possessing a cannabis-based medicine, speak to a legal adviser or solicitor.
Read about how to find legal advice on GOV.UK.

Will the laws on cannabis be relaxed?​

The government has no intention of legalising the use of cannabis for recreational (non-medical) use.
Possessing cannabis is illegal, whatever you're using it for. That includes medical use cannabis products, unless these have been prescribed for you.

 
Forget about the money, the issue is the illegality of cannabis, plus the fact that almost no one can get a prescription via the NHS, when compared to the size of the population and those who self medicate using cannabis (products) via street dealers and the like.

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How did we get here? A brief overview of events

  • On 1 November 2018, Health Secretary, Sajid Javid announced that cannabis for medicinal purposes was to be moved from a schedule one to a schedule two drug, permitting all consultants on the specialist register to prescribe.
  • In March 2019 when it became clear that the law change did not mean widespread NHS access, the new Health Secretary Matt Hancock commissioned an NHS review into the barriers. The resulting report, published in August 2019 made 10 recommendations, none of which have been implemented to date.
  • In December 2020, the Advisory Council for the Misuse of Drugs also published a report on the impact of the change in legislation, which stated that a full review of international approaches to the legislation of CBPMs was needed. This is also yet to be carried out.
  • In March 2021, Matt and Ali Hughes brought a legal case against NICE which led to a clarification of the guidance around the prescribing of CBPMs, that cannabis-based medicines can be prescribed in any individual case, where ‘clinically appropriate’.
  • In April 2021, the NHS launched its cannabis patient registry. Two years later (in February 2023) an FOI request revealed that it was yet to enrol a single patient.
  • In October 2021, the BPNA published new guidance for members, stating that there is ‘no evidence’ for the use of cannabis-based medicines beyond Epidyolex, and advises against the use of THC due to ‘safety concerns’. Despite the fact that Epidyolex also contains some amount of THC.
  • In March 2022, Health Minister Gillian Keegan told parliament that the NHS is ‘working closely’ on two RCTs to compare the effects of medicines containing CBD, and CBD with THC, and a placebo. Any further details are yet to be made public.
  • In February 2023, an adult patient secured NHS reimbursement for the prescription of an unlicensed cannabis oil containing CBD and THC. This is followed by the first reimbursement of a flower-based product in July, illustrating that a funding route was possible.
  • In September 2023, in its latest report on drugs, the Home Affairs Committee recommended that the government widen access to cannabis on the NHS before the end of the next parliament. However, it failed to provide any indication of a path forward.
 
Not sure where you're getting your millions of users from?

Quick Google search shows from 2018 to 2022 there were around 100,000 prescriptions issued for licensed and unlicensed cannabis products and as of 2023 it's estimated there are around 25,000 people using medical cannabis.

making it up, i reckon.
 
making it up, i reckon.
Yep. That’s about the size of it, I feel.
I have an uneasy feeling about most of these products.

I was wondering if any proper research been done. One using the proper scientific method, that’s been replicated by others?
 
This is turning into a witch hunt, it needs to stop. I've been using cbd since 2016, it works for me.
 
This is turning into a witch hunt, it needs to stop. I've been using cbd since 2016, it works for me.

I've just re-read the thread in case I missed something. I don't see a witch hunt here. As the vendor stated: vendor or not, they are perfectly entitled to their opinion. Yes, they are, but vendor or not, if you're going to express an opinion and make extraordinary claims and throw around figures that appear to have no basis in reality then you shouldn't be surprised if those claims and figures get questioned.
 
I have an uneasy feeling about most of these products.

I was wondering if any proper research been done. One using the proper scientific method, that’s been replicated by others?
@Mitz I'm referencing the witch hunt theme mostly to the above
 
@Mitz I'm referencing the witch hunt theme mostly to the above
I think it's pretty widely accepted that CBD has its place and can help certain people with medical conditions. Does it help all people and all conditions? No. Does it help all people with the same condition? No. Does it help some people with some conditions and some people with other conditions? Yes. That's what the evidence would suggest.

I'm no expert on this subject, or any other (except, perhaps, general mutancy 🤪), but I am fortunate enough - as we all are - to live in an age where there is a vast amount of information available to us for the paltry price of a little time invested. Just as the information available to us can be used to fact check a vendor's claims and figures, it can also be used to research any given subject, including any potential health benefits and medical treatment uses of CBD. It doesn't take long to find out whether claims made by others are true or not, or whether there's a grey area between truth and fiction.
 
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