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I'd unwrap that and wrap it in the opposite direction, place the wire under the screwdriver starting left and up and over, you can space it at the same time.

Alrighty..That is what i have just done, I can not do it that neatly but i have ended up with this:
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Then i fitted it..Already getting a bit wonky.
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Put in this much Cotton
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In this particular attempt, i have not trimmed down the end of the cotton , I just poked the ends into the juice channel:
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Apart from the wonky (and maybe shit to start with) coil, I really cant see a problem with what i am doing.

I will leave it just as it is for now and wait to hear back. The original tank is going back on for the time being.
 
Alrighty..That is what i have just done, I can not do it that neatly but i have ended up with this:
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Then i fitted it..Already getting a bit wonky.
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Put in this much Cotton
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In this particular attempt, i have not trimmed down the end of the cotton , I just poked the ends into the juice channel:
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Apart from the wonky (and maybe shit to start with) coil, I really cant see a problem with what i am doing.

I will leave it just as it is for now and wait to hear back. The original tank is going back on for the time being.

Ok, it's not the tidiest coil (first image), those wraps need to be as neat, of equal diameter and uniform as possible, BUT your other images look much much better mate. So I'm assuming you tweaked the coil after you took the first image, and did a dry burn (glowed the coil) to get it firing evenly. Hopefully the cotton had some resistance as you pulled it through the coil, if not that could be a (gurgling) factor, I'd say you're getting there though :)
 
Ok, it's not the tidiest coil (first image), those wraps need to be as neat, of equal diameter and uniform as possible, BUT your other images look much much better mate. So I'm assuming you tweaked the coil after you took the first image, and did a dry burn (glowed the coil) to get it firing evenly. Hopefully the cotton had some resistance as you pulled it through the coil, if not that could be a (gurgling) factor, I'd say you're getting there though :)

I definitely need to address the coil issue :) It is such a pain that this deck doesn't take coils the way they are made, it makes no sense at all. it is mind bogglingly stupid in fact. Strangely that coil hasn't really been 'fixed' in between the photo's, it just doesn't look as bad in the other shots for some reason.

It all looks quite neat, but i have just put my last remaining brand new coil in my Crown 4 tank so that will last me a week or so atleast..no panic :)
 
I definitely need to address the coil issue :) It is such a pain that this deck doesn't take coils the way they are made, it makes no sense at all. it is mind bogglingly stupid in fact. Strangely that coil hasn't really been 'fixed' in between the photo's, it just doesn't look as bad in the other shots for some reason.

It all looks quite neat, but i have just put my last remaining brand new coil in my Crown 4 tank so that will last me a week or so atleast..no panic :)

At some point I'll make some coils and sent you some (for free of course), maybe some wire as well. I'm ill atm, and my daughters are needy but in a week or two I'll sort it (the coils, not my daughters!).
 
At some point I'll make some coils and sent you some (for free of course), maybe some wire as well. I'm ill atm, and my daughters are needy but in a week or two I'll sort it (the coils, not my daughters!).

That is very kind of you! From what you can see, do you think it must be the coils that are giving me issues?
It seems like once in a while i have just got lucky and it has worked , but i cant see what i did differently on those occasions..I have never put a particularly tidy coil in it.

What i might do is try out a decent coil that you send me, if that works, i will invest in some 'proper wire' and a tool!
 
I bet my tanks gurgle and spit ,but I'm deaf so it don't bother me,haha.
Some coils stink and will make you cough.
I was reading on here the other day about someone who hand makes top coils for members,apparently he's very good and the price is good,now I've got this far I'm thinking of getting some from him.
Can't find the thread now.
@Smut might be the chap you're thinking of.
I'm yet to try his coils though from what I've read on here they are of excellent quality.
 
That is very kind of you! From what you can see, do you think it must be the coils that are giving me issues?
It seems like once in a while i have just got lucky and it has worked , but i cant see what i did differently on those occasions..I have never put a particularly tidy coil in it.

What i might do is try out a decent coil that you send me, if that works, i will invest in some 'proper wire' and a tool!

Obviously you're on a learning curve with the coil making, it does take time, I've been building for well over 4 years, I'm still learning, it never stops.
 
You do seem to be getting there Hedders, stick at it!

Ive personally had similar experiences with Kanthal coils. For me the flavour I get from them is very muted, this is not to say they may not be right for you as a lot of people use and love Kanthal, but it might be worth giving something else a try.
 
wow you have been having fun
get down to boots and buy a bottle of vg for 2 quid ish (dont cost as much as juice when you get it wrong)
then building the thing with less and less cotton still it starts leaking
when you know that you have an idea of how much you need in the juice wells

the gurgling is prob from over priming and juice dropping down the air channels,to avoid this i have the mod on low power and pulse it a few times when im applying juice as it help it soak in

lack of flavour can be down to a few things but to much cotton in the coil is prob main one
the juice needs space to wick so if the cotton is to tight anywhere no flavor sept for dry hit
the way your fitting the cotton looks right ,so its prob how much your using

coils themselves can last yonks with the right care
kanthal you can dry bur like a mofo and put the coils under running cold water to shock the poo off( dont press the power button when the coils are in the water lol)
stainless steel you can do a v gentle dry burn on but dont glow them
im not familiar with the bro chromb they all go on about lol but im sure someone will say best way to clean them

fused clapton wire is rather easy to work with when it hasnt been rolled the wrong way 1st
https://www.wireandstuff.co.uk/products/Parallel-Coil.html
just remember to dry fire and get to start glowing from the middle out before wicking and rewicking

it took me about 6 month to get the nack of the tfv8 rba and it can still bit me in the ass
 
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