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[MarylinC37]

I’m going to say that one must acknowledge that
not ALL nicotine is equal. From bitter experience we won’t touch nicotine from one particular source, but that’s as far as I am prepared to say.

As I've said I mix my own recipes and don't get my nic from a dedicated vape shop but they were well recommended as a good source and the nic is good quality.

 

[oORobOo]

So in other words you can't find a single such post on this forum.

In contrast I just did what you asked and googled propylene glycol allergy. Here is what I found.

https://dermnetnz.org/topics/contact-allergy-to-propylene-glycol

Who gets contact allergy to propylene glycol?

Contact allergy to propylene glycol is relatively uncommon. It is estimated to be present in up to 3.5% of individuals investigated for suspected contact dermatitis. Propylene glycol contact allergy may be more prevalent in atopic patients and other patients with compromised skin (such as stasis dermatitis or hand dermatitis). This is noteworthy, given corticosteroids (a common source of propylene glycol contact allergy) are typically first-line treatment for dermatitis.


"Reletively uncommon" and present in only around 3.5% of people. Doesn't exactly sound like an epidemic.

Your link is for allergic reactions to patch tests on skin, not for irritation to the airways from inhaling. There's a big difference, kinda surprised it was as high as 3.5% tbh.

 

[oORobOo]

I'm not the one spouting BS.

If people are going to make statements then back them up with some EVIDENCE.

How many posts have we all seen on POTV from people having problems like this? And how many times can anyone remember such a post where they didn't have any nicotine in their juice?

I can't remember ANY.

Can heating and vaping other ingredients like PG or certain flavourings cause a problem? YES

Can metals leak into your vape? YES

Is vaping nic free juice completely free of risk? NO

However, the posts on POTV prove that such cases are far more RARE compared to the problems people report when vaping nicotine.

That's why no-one has managed to find a single post from anyone reporting soreness vaping nic free juice.

All I've seen is people clutching at straws. It's the PG, it's the flavour or it's because they saw a black cat while walking under a ladder.

So come on. Prove me wrong and lets see your evidence.

How many posts are there of people vaping 0mg juice?

 

[MarylinC37]

How many posts are there of people vaping 0mg juice?

Well you all have the whole forum and the whole internet for that matter to find some evidence to prove me wrong.

I won't hold my breath.

 

[Crispycritters]

So in other words you can't find a single such post on this forum.

In contrast I just did what you asked and googled propylene glycol allergy. Here is what I found.

https://dermnetnz.org/topics/contact-allergy-to-propylene-glycol

Who gets contact allergy to propylene glycol?

Contact allergy to propylene glycol is relatively uncommon. It is estimated to be present in up to 3.5% of individuals investigated for suspected contact dermatitis. Propylene glycol contact allergy may be more prevalent in atopic patients and other patients with compromised skin (such as stasis dermatitis or hand dermatitis). This is noteworthy, given corticosteroids (a common source of propylene glycol contact allergy) are typically first-line treatment for dermatitis.


"Reletively uncommon" and present in only around 3.5% of people. Doesn't exactly sound like an epidemic.

No - not in other words I can't find any such posts. In other words I can't be bothered to pander to your ramblings so I haven't bothered.

Several questions have been asked in the past from people who have had an adverse reaction to vape products. The suggestions made to them was to try to identify exactly what ingredient was causing the problem and most cases it was suggested to them that they either try a different type of nicotine OR try juices with less PG as BOTH are known to be problematic for some people. A member posted today that VG causes them problems - I have no reason not to believe it because I am aware that we are not both the same individual and as that member has been vaping for many years I'm sure he will have taken the time to identify which ingredient in the juice has caused the problem.

Your assumption that the only possible cause of adverse reactions to juices must be nicotine because it is a known toxin, and it is impossible to have an allergy to food grade products (when you know food allergies are commonplace) is beyond misinformed.

You know some people can get a severe reaction from skin contact with PG, but not grasp they may not enjoy inhaling it.

 

[SirLugg]

 

[MarylinC37]

Your assumption that the only possible cause of adverse reactions to juices must be nicotine because it is a known toxin, and it is impossible to have an allergy to food grade products (when you know food allergies are commonplace) is beyond misinformed.

Excuse me?

If you're going to post accusations like that then point to the post where I said that.

Nowhere in this thread have I said that nicotine is the ONLY possible cause. If that's how you've read it then you need to read more carefully.

I'm still waiting for someone to produce some genuine evidence and prove me wrong.

The silence is deafening.

 

[gary68]

 

[Crispycritters]

Excuse me?

If you're going to post accusations like that then point to the post where I said that.

Nowhere in this thread have I said that nicotine is the ONLY possible cause. If that's how you've read it then you need to read more carefully.

I'm still waiting for someone to produce some genuine evidence and prove me wrong.

The silence is deafening.

Try reading the first line of your first post.

 

[MarylinC37]

Try reading the first line of your first post.

What about it?