RBA vs pre-built - Please explain

[vapervince]

Sounds like you`ve got it sussed.

 

[Reti]

I'm getting dry hits if I vape for longer than like 1sec. Do I maybe need to thin the sides more?

EDIT: I'm only vaping at 60w. The coil is rated for 80. If I go to 80w the hit is really dry and nasty.

 

[Crispycritters]

I'm getting dry hits if I vape for longer than like 1sec. Do I maybe need to thin the sides more?

EDIT: I'm only vaping at 60w. The coil is rated for 80. If I go to 80w the hit is really dry and nasty.

Yes bud - the cotton drying after one second is a sure sign there's too much wick in the juice well and thinning each end a bit more should do the trick.

On the 'nic strength' subject - mesh will absolutely plough through juice. 6mg may be a bit on the strong side.

When I started vaping I was on MTL 12mg juices, when I bought my first DL atomiser I was a little anxious about lowering the nic and was tempted to go for 6mg - the guy in the shop talked me into trying 3mg and, despite my reservations, he was right and i had no problems whatsoever. Your tank will vaporise A LOT of juice, probably more than it does at the moment once you've sussed the wicking and I think you'll find 6mg too much in that tank.

i recommend you just buy a 50ml shortfill and a single nic shot so you get 60ml of 3mg juice to try out. Don't go crazy and buy loads just in case I've got it wrong, but I'd be very surprised if you need more than 3mg in that tank, particularly in mesh mode.

 

[MarylinC37]

I'm delighted to hear your new kit has arrived and you've succesfully vaped on your first ever build. Sounds like you've done a great job.

I'm amazed you're able to vape that at 10mg and I'm not at all surprised you're getting a nic rush. I guess we all have different tolerance levels.

All my vape batteries are also Molicell although if my little squonking experiment works out I'm thinking of trying out the Samsung 30Q 18650's.

 

[Reti]

Ok so I've installed the single core deck. It's A LOT better in regards to no dry hits. It's working a charm.
I installed a tri-core fused clapton (3mm - 0.21ohm - Ni80) and used the square shaped cotton that came with it (Coilology). This one is working perfectly.
I'll attach some photos of the mesh deck. Not sure you can tell a lot from it but it's there.

I got a new eliquid bottle and made it 5.5mg/ml strength. This one seems a lot better at this strength.
10mg was fine for me on my Zeus tank but it's too much on this one.

I got this single core one perfect though on my first go. It's not getting dry at all and I can hear the juice being sucked into the wicking area as I inhale.

Photos of mesh deck, built and used:

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EDIT: I can tell when I pulled the cotton and coil from the mesh one that it was packed with way too much cotton. Will give that one another try later. Going to try double coil one next and probably use a normal fused clapton.

What are the things that distinguish the other coils from each other?
I have:
-Staple
-Framed staple
-Multi-strands fused claptop
-Chain link
-Juggernaut

I think someone made a balls up. These are for sure not framed staples in the compartment named as such.

 

[Reti]

I'm delighted to hear your new kit has arrived and you've succesfully vaped on your first ever build. Sounds like you've done a great job.

I'm amazed you're able to vape that at 10mg and I'm not at all surprised you're getting a nic rush. I guess we all have different tolerance levels.

All my vape batteries are also Molicell although if my little squonking experiment works out I'm thinking of trying out the Samsung 30Q 18650's.

What's this experiment you speak of? I see those Samsung's have a slightly higher capacity than P28A's but slightly lower drainage amp.

 

[vapervince]

The wattage guidelines are notional and nearly always on the high side, start off about two thirds and work up if you need to, it`s about the taste, not the numbers.

 

[Crispycritters]

I'm delighted to hear your new kit has arrived and you've succesfully vaped on your first ever build. Sounds like you've done a great job.

I'm amazed you're able to vape that at 10mg and I'm not at all surprised you're getting a nic rush. I guess we all have different tolerance levels.

All my vape batteries are also Molicell although if my little squonking experiment works out I'm thinking of trying out the Samsung 30Q 18650's.

30Qs are really good 18650s but the Amp rating system can be a bit confusing - they are rated by Samsung for number of charge/recharge cycles rather than their maximum safe discharge rate. Some places list them at 20 Amps CDR, some at 15 Amp CDR - this is for an anticipated 300 cycles at 15 Amps or 200 at 20 Amps. Mooch tested them ages ago and they got a very good rating as 20 Amp batteries.

I use 30Qs in dual 18650 regulated mods because i seldom go over 80 watts and they are great for that - but in a single 18650 mod I wouldn't push them over 50 watts - if you think you may go over that I think you're better off sticking with 25 Amp Molicels or maybe VTC5As

 

[MarylinC37]

What's this experiment you speak of? I see those Samsung's have a slightly higher capacity than P28A's but slightly lower drainage amp.

Up to now I never fancied using drippers but a squonk mod overcomes the need to have to keep getting out a bottle of juice and regularly having to keep dripping juice but a squonker would mean I wouldn't have to so I just got my first RDA a few days ago.

Now that I'm using it I'm actually really enjoying it. I don't have my new squonk mod yet so I'm using it as a normal dripper but I'm really liking the way it vapes.

30Qs are really good 18650s but the Amp rating system can be a bit confusing - they are rated by Samsung for number of charge/recharge cycles rather than their maximum safe discharge rate. Some places list them at 20 Amps CDR, some at 15 Amp CDR - this is for an anticipated 300 cycles at 15 Amps or 200 at 20 Amps. Mooch tested them ages ago and they got a very good rating as 20 Amp batteries.

I use 30Qs in dual 18650 regulated mods because i seldom go over 80 watts and they are great for that - but in a single 18650 mod I wouldn't push them over 50 watts - if you think you may go over that I think you're better off sticking with 25 Amp Molicels or maybe VTC5As

You're right about the amp rating. The reason I wasn't worried is because with my spaced coils I never get above 45W.

 

[MarylinC37]

The wattage guidelines are notional and nearly always on the high side, start off about two thirds and work up if you need to, it`s about the taste, not the numbers.

Perfect advice.

I think people often get far too wrapped up with the numbers. For me it's about what comes through the drip tip judging the amount of flavour and getting the vapour to carry just the right amount of juice.