smoking ban 2030

[Simon G]

not that I believe in banning anything is the answer though... so whatever.

 

[Simon G]

I am one of the ones that hated it when they banned it in Scotland from Pubs, hated it, really missed the smokey rooms and general atmosphere that it affected in the subsequent years.

I hate it too, I pretty much stopped going out. I smoked for 30 odd years so I know exactly how you feel. I stopped missing it 3 years ago though and now I'm just glad to finally see it out of my life.

When you don't smoke, it gives you a whole different perspective. I honestly don't know how my non-smoking friends and family used to put up with it when they went out.

 

[Jon The Vape]

I hate it too, I pretty much stopped going out. I smoked for 30 odd years so I know exactly how you feel. I stopped missing it 3 years ago though and now I'm just glad to finally see it out of my life.

When you don't smoke, it gives you a whole different perspective. I honestly don't know how my non-smoking friends and family used to put up with it when they went out.

This exactly Simon.
I could never understand as a smoker when they banned smoking in pubs. Now I couldn't sit in a pub full of smoke.

 

[zouzounaki]

not that I believe in banning anything is the answer though... so whatever.

Phew... I was worried we were turning into the temperance society!

 

[MiscoDatt]

@scrumpox I am counter-arguing what seems to be the main complaint from those who are against Smoking, they argue that it costs more to the NHS than the Tobacco Industry brings in, factually, they are wrong. My main complaint, or argument, is that people should be free to Smoke if they want too, they know full well the dangers and health hazard it brings, they should't be forced to stop against their will.

Of course laws change, I accept that, but not wearing a seat belt, or driving whilst on the phone are not highly addictive, smoking is, they can't just expect people to stop smoking because the make it against the law, that's utterly outrageous. Coffee is bad for your health, fizzy drinks also, chocolate etc... I could go on, are these all going to be outlawed as well? I may well be getting my wires crossed completely here and jumping the gun, as I am not even sure if it's actually happening, or just being rumoured, but I think it's a joke, just my opinion.

@Simon G That's your choice Simon, and maybe I'll look at it that way once I crack not-smoking for a certain length of time ( I say that because I have bought 1 pack of fags in the last 2 weeks, so not entirely stopped ) but it's no more a blight than Alcohol, for example. I don't mind smoking, it doesn't bother me, I am one of the ones that hated it when they banned it in Scotland from Pubs, hated it, really missed the smokey rooms and general atmosphere that it affected in the subsequent years. I see it a lot differently in terms of my own health, smelly clothes and smelling it off other people since moving on to Vape, but that was my choice to do so, I suppose I might just be utterly disturbed by the notion that these people dictate yet another way of life for us.

I disagree.

The ‘act’ of consuming alcohol does not in any way directly affect another’s health.

The ‘act’ of smoking does.

 

[FatherJackHackett]

@Discomatt That is correct, however, it's the same principle that applies, people are well aware of the dangers that Smoking, or in this case, passive smoking, can cause. I personally don't mind being in the same vicinity as someone that's smoking, but if I did, I'd remove myself from them until they were finished. And if you're outside, you're not really going to be affecting others unless your exhale is heading directly for them, granted a different story altogher indoors, but again, if you don't like it, you could always remove yourself until it's finished or ask them respectfully not to do so whilst in your company.

My old man gave up the fags nearly 10 years ago, he never let me smoke in his Car, or house, I always had to wait til we arrived at our destination or go outside etc....

The more I think about it, the more I am less annoyed I guess, yes, it's a filthy habit, it's very harmful, but my main issue is these Politicians deciding what we can and can't do, and of course, I mean directly smoking, I am not talking about murder or theft etc...

They will hammer the Vaping Industry soon enough, they've done all their tests and what they needed to do, see that it's a lot less harmful, and that is is a growing Industry, so in the long run they'll benefit from the health improvements and at the same time, they'll benefit from the income it brings. Just my take on it, not necessarily what will happen for definite.

 

[nwhornet]

I disagree.

The ‘act’ of consuming alcohol does not in any way directly affect another’s health.

The ‘act’ of smoking does.

Unless you've lived with an alcoholic you don't know the physical & mental damage to those around them. Also visit any town centre or A&E on a weekend & see the damage done to others by the consumption of alcohol.

 

[MHL]

^^ This ^^

Those who argue that alcohol only affects the health of the user would also welcome the legalisation of heroin, crack and meth?

As a society I think we are very inconsistent in our attitudes towards drugs and substances, from coffee through to class As. But tobacco is the worst of all worlds. It's expensive, highly addicitive, harmful to everybody's health, and it doesn't even get you high!!

 

[MiscoDatt]

Unless you've lived with an alcoholic you don't know the physical & mental damage to those around them. Also visit any town centre or A&E on a weekend & see the damage done to others by the consumption of alcohol.

I agree. But that’s not what I was saying. The ‘act’ as in consuming the alcohol. Not the after affects or the collateral damage it can cause by the subsequent behaviour.

The ‘act’ of smoking a fag can have detrimental effects on others.

 

[kris73]

I refuse to condemn smokers.

They are "us".

But 5 years ago "us".

(5 yrs in my case, anyway...)