The TPD means nothing

[jsixtysix]

just who would you pick lol

yup that is indeed Farage !

lol, no it's not - The original fella before the photoshop op would probably be your best bet imo.

 

[Mawsley]

at last a politician who can really get behind the Female populace

But probably not quite the manner of "reaching out" which women were expecting

 

[Phantom Diablo]

lol, no it's not - The original fella before the photoshop op would probably be your best bet imo.

dont know about the original guy but know its the work of Michael Rawlins.

still think its fits the bill though lol

heres a real image of farage

 

[rachel_tw]

The Totally Wicked legal challenge is probably our best chance of getting Article 20 stopped in it's tracks, and every member of Vapers in Power is a registered supporter of that action. However we believe that the chances of that action working can be improved by every action and public outcry that takes place. There are many in power that would love to just sweep it under the carpet. They need to know that that won't go unnoticed.

Vapers in Power isn't a new group the party has been registered with the Electoral Commission for roughly a year, and obviously it took some organisation to get to that stage. It came into existence then section 5 was added to Article 20. That is the bit that could potentially ban all public endorsement of ecigs, first they take it away and then they ban us from talking about it. Whilst the UK doesn't have the right to free speech for members of the public, it does have something along those lines for Political Parties. Basically even if the worse comes to the worst they can't shut us up.

Given that we ARE a political party one of the most obvious ways we can make noise, challenge the TPD and ensure a more balanced view of vaping is available, is to present candidates for election. This is what we are doing. We have two candidates standing in the parliamentary elections. As part of this we are generating, posters, leaflets and press releases for the constituencies our candidates are standing in. We can't afford to produce and dispatch this media to every B+M in the country, but what we can do is make that media available through the forums and social media so that vapers who understand the dangers and want to help the fight can print off their own copies and deliver them to the vaping shops nearest them.

We need to fight the TPD, but the first step to take is to make sure that everyone actually KNOWS about it.

Couldn't agree more.

What I find more scary is the sheer amount of people who aren't even aware.

I stood in my shop and asked every single customer that came in, you know how many knew? Not one.

I'm baffled by it, it doesn't help that no one will report on it!!!

 

[Dr Manhattan]

therein lies the biggest problem. i dont know if its apathy, igmorance or what the excuse is.. but when you look at the number of vapers int he UK alone ( isnt it well in excess of 2 million now ? ) and when you look at the EVFI which required 1 million signatures to be able to put forward there case and in the end it managed a fucking pitiful 181,000 i think thats total and UTTER fucking disgrace and ANY vaper that didnt sign it should hang there sorry arse head in shame.

how the fuck are we supposed to beat this is people are to fucking lazy to get off there arse and sign a simple online petition let alone do anything else... fucks me right off.

I know exactly how you feel its just how society is, 99% of people are happy to sit on their fat lazy arses doing nothing, probably hoping 'someone else' will fix it, but they will whine when it happens, same thing with most of the fuckry going on in the world today. Individuals are smart, but collectively just behave like stupid lazy mindless sheep


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[purplemonkey9]

Article 20 Tobacco Products Directive Legal Challenge - Totally Wicked Legal Challenge Article 20 TPD

It's a good poster though a link to the TW challenge site would be good.

For clarity, the 'advertising' is something of a misnomer because it includes a ban on anything remotely 'promoting' ecigs. Many interpret this to include forums like this one. I haven't seen any TV ads for Vaporsharks either but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have heard of them without the internet, or any of the kit I have used for 5 years come to that

"5. Member States shall ensure that: a) commercial communications in information society services, in the press and other printed publications, with the aim or direct or indirect effect of promoting electronic cigarettes and refill containers are prohibited, except for publications that are intended exclusively for professionals in the trade of electronic cigarettes or refill containers and for publications which are printed and published in third countries, where those publications are not principally intended for the Union market;
b) commercial communications on the radio, with the aim or direct or indirect effect of promoting electronic cigarettes and refill containers, are prohibited;
c) any form of public or private contribution to radio programmes with the aim or direct or indirect effect of promoting electronic cigarettes and refill containers is prohibited;

d) any form of public or private contribution to any event, activity or individual person with the aim or direct or indirect effect of promoting electronic cigarettes and refill containers and involving or taking place in several Member States or otherwise having cross-border effects is prohibited;

e) audiovisual commercial communications to which Directive 2010/13/EU applies, are prohibited for electronic cigarettes and refill containers."

(from Clive Bates here Updated info post: TPD ? provisions relating to e-cigarettes « The counterfactual )



Personally I doubt they would be able to ban forums talking about ecigs. On the other hand we wouldn't be left with much to talk about

 

[Mr Numpty]

I don't know if it has been said yet but I can't see that anyone can stop manufacturers making any form of dripper or tank etc if they are labelled as being for the purpose of vaping pure nic free VG, can they?

Edit: I see that this point has been addressed in the proposed ban but I still don't think it is enforceable.

 

[Diche]

I don't know if it has been said yet but I can't see that anyone can stop manufacturers making any form of dripper or tank etc if they are labelled as being for the purpose of vaping pure nic free VG, can they?

Edit: I see that this point has been addressed in the proposed ban but I still don't think it is enforceable.

It doesn't have to be easily enforceable, all they need to do is fine one retailer with a massive bankruptcy inducing fine and what retailer is going to risk it.