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UK Gov To Ban Disposables?

It does

uses a lithium battery as well

this is why my suggestion would be to ban all non rechargable items that use a lithium battery and dont have a charge port a - not just vapes - the issue is bigger than vapes, but we are kidding ourselves if we dont think disposables are a very big part of the issue.
But ban them all and at least its not vaping targetted

see above, that one at least seems to have a regular aaa battery. you can even buy cheap vibrating tooth brushes that take replaceable aaa’s. i might be wrong but i doubt disposable toothbrushes have lithium batteries.
 
Ministers are to ban disposable vapes as part of a UK-wide drive to curb youth vaping.

The government is also seeking to make vaping less appealing to children by restricting sweet and fruity flavours, introducing plain packaging and making displays less visible in shops, under newly announced powers. The changes are expected to come into effect towards the end of this year or early 2025.

Announcing the move, Rishi Sunak said: “As any parent or teacher knows, one of the most worrying trends at the moment is the rise in vaping among children, and so we must act before it becomes endemic.”

He added: “As prime minister, I have an obligation to do what I think is the right thing for our country in the long term. That is why I am taking bold action to ban disposable vapes – which have driven the rise in youth vaping – and bring forward new powers to restrict vape flavours, introduce plain packaging and change how vapes are displayed in shops.”

The move forms part of a wider response to a public consultation on smoking and vaping, which has resulted in plans for some of the world’s toughest anti-smoking measures, first revealed by the Guardian, including a ban on selling tobacco products to anyone born on or after 1 January 2009.

Although vaping can be a useful tool in helping adult smokers to quit, doctors are concerned about the unknown long-term health impact of vaping on young people and their developing respiratory systems, as well as nicotine addiction, which can cause anxiety, trouble concentrating and headaches during withdrawal.

Recent figures show the number of children using vapes in the past three years has tripled, with 9% of 11- to 15-year-olds now using vapes. The proportion of 11- to 17-year-old vapers using disposables has increased almost nine-fold in the past two years.

The ban will also reduce the major environmental impact of disposables, since 5m vapes are thrown away each week, up from 1.3m last year.

The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health welcomed the announcement, which follows its campaign launched in June to ban disposable e-cigarettes and introduce marketing restrictions.

Dr Mike McKean, a vice-president for policy at the college, said: “Bold action was always needed to curb youth vaping and banning disposables is a meaningful step in the right direction.”

He told the Guardian that the success of the changes would depend on the detail and close monitoring of its impact on the behaviour of children and smokers. “I anticipate this will make a difference, but the size of the difference we don’t know yet,” he said. “I don’t think this area of policy is done and dusted – it’s one we watch and see if it needs tweaking and further development. This is a good bill and we should back it, but watch it very carefully.”

Despite recent research suggesting banning disposables could discourage the use of e-cigarettes among people who are trying to quit smoking, he felt it was the right policy. “There are many other ways of supporting adults to come off cigarette smoking, including reusable vapes. I just don’t buy this argument. I can understand people raising concerns, but I would challenge them back and say they’re not putting children and young people first.”

The government is hoping to introduce the legislation that will ban disposable vapes as soon as possible by using existing environmental protection laws. The ban will also be implemented in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland through devolved legislation.

Ministers will have to pass the tobacco and vapes bill, included in the king’s speech, to obtain powers to restrict flavours, introduce plain packaging and change how vapes are displayed in shops. The speed of its passage depends on other outstanding legislation and will be followed by a six-month implementation period to give retailers time to adjust.

To crack down on underage sales, the government will also bring in fines for shops in England and Wales that sell vapes illegally to children, including giving trading standards officers powers to hand out on-the-spot fines. Vaping alternatives such as nicotine pouches will also be outlawed for children.

Of the 25,000 responses from parents, teachers, healthcare professionals and the public to the government’s public consultation, 70% said they were in favour of a disposable vape ban, though support was mixed for flavour restrictions.

Dame Rachel de Souza, the children’s commissioner for England, said: “When I asked children a couple of years ago about all aspects of their health and wellbeing, I was shocked and concerned to hear from children as young as 12 who told me that vaping was normalised among their peers – even on school premises. This announcement will help tackle that issue and I know that many children and parents will be extremely relieved.”

The UK Vaping Industry Association (UKVIA) said that while it welcomed on-the-spot powers for enforcement officers to deal with underage sales, it was “dismayed” by the decision, which it said could discourage smokers from using vapes to quit.

A spokesperson said: “The answer to youth vaping doesn’t lie in counterproductive bans and restrictions, but rather in effective and proactive enforcement – which is woefully lacking – of the law which states that it is illegal for vapes to be sold to minors.”

The UKVIA is presenting a scheme based on an industry-wide consultation to parliamentarians in February that will set out ways to make it harder for rogue traders to sell to minors.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/jan/28/disposable-vapes-ban-uk-curb-youth-vaping
 
If/when the disposable ban comes in - there will be a grandfather period where vendors can sell off the enourmous amounts they have in stoxk in the country.

at that point im tempted to actually start selling them - to try get help rid of them quicker!
 
I actually agree with almost everything that @andipandi has copied and posted (thanks for posting it - I’d never have found that myself as I avoid the news like the plague).

I even agree with restricting the way vaping kit is displayed to an extent. I actually think the way local Asda local shop thingy at the service station close to me does it works best - most of it behind the counter and the bits that aren’t in a glass cabinet. But plain packing is a stupid notion. Adults like SpongeBob too, and e liquid and device manufacturers should be free to label their kit as they see fit imo, obviously not SpongeBob as that’s copyright infringement but you get the picture. Colours and fancy packing appeal to some and that’s a selling point. The 30 Marlboro a day smoker may try e juice because he likes the way the bottle looks. You never know….. Dedicated vape shops and websites should have no such restrictions imo, other than solid age verifications on the websites , as most of them do already.

I actually like the fact the article specifically mentions reusable vapes.

Restricting flavours is a stupid and a silly notion. But I wouldn’t put it past this billionaire asshole and his little band of dictators. He’s on a ban spree lately because he can, and he gives not one shiny shit about how many lives he has a negative effect on in doing so. And they’re preaching about environmental impacts when this dicksplash is peddling all sorts of notions that harm rather than help the environment in areas other than vaping. Anyone for Rosebank?

The guy is an asshole. Ban disposables, sure. But try and use a bit of common sense with the rest of it. Although common sense for billionaire businessmen playing at being a 21st century Francisco Franco doesn’t seem in large supply, and this guy, and his asshole mates, seem to constantly have the urge to measure their dicks in public.

What a fucking state we’re in.
 
I actually agree with almost everything that @andipandi has copied and posted (thanks for posting it - I’d never have found that myself as I avoid the news like the plague).

I even agree with restricting the way vaping kit is displayed to an extent. I actually think the way local Asda local shop thingy at the service station close to me does it works best - most of it behind the counter and the bits that aren’t in a glass cabinet. But plain packing is a stupid notion. Adults like SpongeBob too, and e liquid and device manufacturers should be free to label their kit as they see fit imo, obviously not SpongeBob as that’s copyright infringement but you get the picture. Colours and fancy packing appeal to some and that’s a selling point. The 30 Marlboro a day smoker may try e juice because he likes the way the bottle looks. You never know….. Dedicated vape shops and websites should have no such restrictions imo, other than solid age verifications on the websites , as most of them do already.

I actually like the fact the article specifically mentions reusable vapes.

Restricting flavours is a stupid and a silly notion. But I wouldn’t put it past this billionaire asshole and his little band of dictators. He’s on a ban spree lately because he can, and he gives not one shiny shit about how many lives he has a negative effect on in doing so. And they’re preaching about environmental impacts when this dicksplash is peddling all sorts of notions that harm rather than help the environment in areas other than vaping. Anyone for Rosebank?

The guy is an asshole. Ban disposables, sure. But try and use a bit of common sense with the rest of it. Although common sense for billionaire businessmen playing at being a 21st century Francisco Franco doesn’t seem in large supply, and this guy, and his asshole mates, seem to constantly have the urge to measure their dicks in public.

What a fucking state we’re in.
The ban thing - its the crazy polarisation of politics that is going on.

we seem to be left with swivel eyed loons on both the right and left - and no decent centre ground.

both sides are as equally likely to ban random things.

libertarianism is slowly being eroded away -
Or maybe quite rapidly.

its not a UK thing either - its worldwide
 
Need hope this ban works....cause once they start swinging

It’s started.
Single use cutlery - hard agree
Laughing gas - why?
XL bullies - hard disagree. Heartless, dick move.
Disposable vapes- agree, as long as it stops there.
Looking at social media for under 16’s- it’s 2024. What’s the thought process behind that.

All unchallenged, or the challenges are muted. Biggest political power trip in the UK in a generation. What. A . Wanker.
 
The ban thing - its the crazy polarisation of politics that is going on.

we seem to be left with swivel eyed loons on both the right and left - and no decent centre ground.

both sides are as equally likely to ban random things.

libertarianism is slowly being eroded away -
Or maybe quite rapidly.

its not a UK thing either - its worldwide

I’ll say it til I’m blue in the face Mart - whole thing needs to be ripped up and started again. They’re so out of touch down there it’s scary and laughable.
Get respected community pillars to speak for us. Who’ve lived our lives, worked in our jobs and have plotted their own successes and know how to make a situation work for the better.
I cannot, and will not, ever respect or follow a silver spoon fed pos who bleats that they ‘work hard for the country/ people’ but are actually so far out of touch they have no idea how to push anything but their own agenda.

We are very much fucked imo.
 
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