UK Gov To Ban Disposables?

[ZT]

Let me know what you think of it if you do. Personally, I don't really like battered stuff. Tend to pick it off before eating the fish from a chippy. And I'm pretty sure Mexicans don't use fish n chip style batter when frying ice cream.

Indont like chip shop batter - much rather have the fish without the batter

i do like panko breadcrumbs and tempura batter tho

 

[Rickster]

Ive had one

it was as rank as it sounds

Maybe I will continue to pass....I like my chocolate cold...like fridge cold

 

[ZT]

But did you wash it down with Irn Bru to get the full effect?

I didnt get past more than a bite or two - it was vile

Also that vile watered down vinergary brown sauce shite they have up north somewhere i had to try it after reading about it on here. Chippy sauce is it ?

ill stick to vinegar salt and tommy k

 

[ZT]

The one with the “secret recipe”

as soon as you try it anyone with half a pallate can go “well … thats cheap brown sauce and vinegar”

 

[zouzounaki]

The legislation that charges trading standards with policing illegal sales.

He means the legislation for trading standards to raid shops selling either illegal vapes or vapes to underage

i know people who have reported places for this and nothing has been done about it.

You read about the odd raid - but compared to whats reported its nothing.

i know one well known legitimate vendor who got a visit from TS saying he was stocking illegal vapes (which he wasnt) - he had been reported by the local corner shop (who was selling illegal vapes, because they didn't like the competition).

He then gave them evidence of illegality within that corner shop - and nothing was nor has still been done about it.

more back handers presumably.

the legislation is there to stop a lot of the cockwombling that happens around illegal vapes

i think vik is right as well - if the importers and distros of said illegal vapes are part of the trade associations … then WTF

No wonder they are not being listened too anymore.

furthermore - no matter what you feel about disposables and the comparative low cost making them attractive to the less fortunate. Once the distros and large retailers started making them the main drive rather than a stepping stone to a better product - this was blatantly always going to happen.
I said this back when they first appeared.

see for me the problem is the massive influx of disposable vapes. that was the problem. not specifically illegal ones. all of them. the majority of the hundreds of them i see littered up and down my street every week and i need to be constantly stopping our unruly five year old trying to picking them up when i’m taking him to school are prob legal and purchased legally by 18 year old students.

we all have “illegal” vape devices, or most of us anyway.

 

[Rickster]

I didnt get past more than a bite or two - it was vile

Also that vile watered down vinergary brown sauce shite they have up north somewhere i had to try it after reading about it on here. Chippy sauce is it ?

ill stick vinegar salt and tommy k

Aye chippy sauce is shite, it may have a name though...or if you were in Edinburgh it might be called just that chippy sauce

 

[zouzounaki]

Maybe I will continue to pass....I like my chocolate cold...like fridge cold

apparently they freeze the mars bars first. so you never know, might still be a wee bit chilled in the middle

 

[ZT]

see for me the problem is the massive influx of disposable vapes. that was the problem. not specifically illegal ones. all of them. the majority of the hundreds of them i see littered up and down my street every week and i need to be constantly stopping our unruly five year old trying to picking them up when i’m taking him to school are prob legal and purchased legally by 18 year old students.

we all have “illegal” vape devices, or most of us anyway.

i hear ya - and am in agreement - the illegal ones sit slightly above it for me - but not by a great deal - they are all part of the same pile

 

[MarylinC37]

Like I said earlier, I don't see any major difference between the legal and the illegal disposables.

The illegal ones haven't been knocked up in some back street garage by some bunch of dodgy countfeiters. They have been really well thought out. The design, the shape, the packaging are all really slick and perfectly targeted. They seem to be really well made and have a pretty low failure rate and they've been rushed out and mass produced in their millions.

All that takes some serious resources. The fact that they're not legal and TPD compliant means they have had to find other ways to get them in here but it means they have got the legal and illegal markets both covered.

Every time they run out you have to buy another one and suddenly you have a gravy train worth billions and everyone wants a piece of it. Then suddenly, as if by magic, people like UKVIA are telling us all how amazing they are and all this so-called evidence suddenly turns up and we are all supposed to react in horror at the thought of a ban.

The laws and enforcement is hopelessly inadequate and can't keep up and the mess that these things have created is in serious danger of tearing the heart out of vaping in the UK.

So much for harm reduction. Disposables have caused nothing but harm.

 

[Mitz]

Call me crazy but I'd have no problem walking in to a shop and buying a disposable vape. On the other hand, last time I was in Basingstoke there was a market style stall with literally thousands of disposables being sold to anyone and everyone for a fraction of the retail price. Wouldn't be tempted even if they were giving them away. I'm sure the local kids love it tho.