what caused the surge in new cases?

[burnt fingers]

All I read there was me, me, me, me.

I see rather a lot of "we" in that post .

 

[TheLiqidator]

I see rather a lot of "we" in that post .

And what is your issue with considering others, what if you unavoidably come in to contact with someone who has just been out doing as they please and you catch it and have a bad reaction to it?

I'm not saying full scale lockdown, I'm saying everyone should limit what they do. Not that we should get tinfoil helmets and bunker down for the long haul. I was at the cinema this week (Tenet, great film, go and see it). Been out for dinner a few times too.

If we all limit unnecessary stuff it will put the infection rate down, we already seen that with the full on lockdown. The problem is that when we came out of it, a lot of people acted like they had just got out of jail. Read the article that started this again, that's the people we're talking about.

Everyone do a little less, everyone can do a little more. That let's you finish work, go out for a drink and unwind, go to the cinema on your day off then got for a drink and then dinner. Is that not better than closing everything again?

 

[burnt fingers]

And what is your issue with considering others, what if you unavoidably come in to contact with someone who has just been out doing as they please and you catch it and have a bad reaction to it?

I'm not saying full scale lockdown, I'm saying everyone should limit what they do. Not that we should get tinfoil helmets and bunker down for the long haul. I was at the cinema this week (Tenet, great film, go and see it). Been out for dinner a few times too.

If we all limit unnecessary stuff it will put the infection rate down, we already seen that with the full on lockdown. The problem is that when we came out of it, a lot of people acted like they had just got out of jail. Read the article that started this again, that's the people we're talking about.

Everyone do a little less, everyone can do a little more. That let's you finish work, go out for a drink and unwind, go to the cinema on your day off then got for a drink and then dinner. Is that not better than closing everything again?

If I catch it and have a bad reaction to it , maybe I die . It won't be my first time in that situation , I had a virus years ago that caused complete liver and kidney failure . Same one that killed Olympic rower Andy Holmes . I got lucky . It took over a year but I recovered fully from it . I shed a few tears through the pain of it , I said goodbye to friends and family when the odds were well out my favour, laying there yellow , emaciated with blood flowing out my nose and arsehole . At that point I was ready to welcome death like a relief , if I could have crawled out the bed and launched myself from the window of Ashford Hospital I would have done , I guess that's why the windows have cables that stop them opening right up lol . So I have been to the edge , I know that place well it doesn't scare me . We can't save everyone from death , but we can all live our lives .
Longer or shorter , quality is what counts .

 

[TheLiqidator]

If I catch it and have a bad reaction to it , maybe I die . It won't be my first time in that situation , I had a virus years ago that caused complete liver and kidney failure . Same one that killed Olympic rower Andy Holmes . I got lucky . It took over a year but I recovered fully from it . I shed a few tears through the pain of it , I said goodbye to friends and family when the odds were well out my favour, laying there yellow , emaciated with blood flowing out my nose and arsehole . At that point I was ready to welcome death like a relief , if I could have crawled out the bed and launched myself from the window of Ashford Hospital I would have done , I guess that's why the windows have cables that stop them opening right up lol . So I have been to the edge , I know that place well it doesn't scare me . We can't save everyone from death , but we can all live our lives .
Longer or shorter , quality is what counts .

Then you are happy to unintentionally inflict that on someone you don't know? That person I'd just meat to the grinder? Fuck their family, fuck them. You could have just stayed in for a bit but no, you're not doing that and whatever the butterfly effect of that is not your concern? Every reply you've made is just about you, how it effects you, or how you've worked through it all. So have I and a lot of other people and most aren't as selfish as you to make it all about them.

 

[burnt fingers]

Then you are happy to unintentionally inflict that on someone you don't know? That person I'd just meat to the grinder? Fuck their family, fuck them. You could have just stayed in for a bit but no, you're not doing that and whatever the butterfly effect of that is not your concern? Every reply you've made is just about you, how it effects you, or how you've worked through it all. So have I and a lot of other people and most aren't as selfish as you to make it all about them.

Your fixated on me now despite the mention of key workers , colleagues , friends etc in my posts , your just clutching at things now in an attempt to ignore the growing amount of people calling for the same as me . Your argument hasn't convinced me that this will be over quickly or cleanly if we go home before 10 and don't play football for a few weeks .

 

[TheLiqidator]

Your fixated on me now despite the mention of key workers , colleagues , friends etc in my posts , your just clutching at things now in an attempt to ignore the growing amount of people calling for the same as me . Your argument hasn't convinced me that this will be over quickly or cleanly if we go home before 10 and don't play football for a few weeks .

I'm not fixated on you mate, your last few replies were all about you, how this is effecting you, what you need to do, what you can't do. Well, we all have that right now, some harder than others.

I notice you chose to ignore to everything else I said and focus on the one that directly relates to you, I have a feeling most other people acting like selfish bastards and just carrying on as normal would have done the same.

Again I'll say it, the less you do, the more everyone else can do. Find a balance that works for you, if you want to just carry on as normal then that's when you stop being part of the resolution and become a part of the problem.

 

[burnt fingers]

I'm not fixated on you mate, your last few replies were all about you, how this is effecting you, what you need to do, what you can't do. Well, we all have that right now, some harder than others.

I notice you chose to ignore to everything else I said and focus on the one that directly relates to you, I have a feeling most other people acting like selfish bastards and just carrying on as normal would have done the same.

Again I'll say it, the less you do, the more everyone else can do. Find a balance that works for you, if you want to just carry on as normal then that's when you stop being part of the resolution and become a part of the problem.

I have already answered the rest of what you said . People should be able to take as many or few precautions as they individually assess their own risk and make their own judgement on it . The infection line will only cross into those shielding if they stop shielding . Many of us already have very few precautions in place , I do warn others that I am relatively high risk and let them make their own judgement on how close they wish to get . I don't run up to random strangers and hug them lol . Your not going to convince me that how this is being handled right now is correct . Rule of six ...what a croc of shit , remember that saying everyone is six degrees of separation from everyone .. if that's not the proof of the waste of time this is , then it must be some kind of bloody joke or something .

 

[TheLiqidator]

I have already answered the rest of what you said . People should be able to take as many or few precautions as they individually assess their own risk and make their own judgement on it . The infection line will only cross into those shielding if they stop shielding . Many of us already have very few precautions in place , I do warn others that I am relatively high risk and let them make their own judgement on how close they wish to get . I don't run up to random strangers and hug them lol

No you haven't, when people make the choice to take unnecessary risks, that puts everyone at more risk of it spreading. How do you deem it okay for someone to take that decision for anyone they come in to contact with? Directly or indirectly, that's just impossible.

The ones you do sit down and explain the situation to, you could pass it on to them before they hear half of it. Then what?

What about anyone you pass it on to while you're just out, they then pass it on to others who take a really bad reaction? The more people just carry on as normal the more it spreads, the more it spreads the more people it hurts.

 

[vapesmarter]

I see my thread has gone a little astray

I was coming home last night I finished early (10 hours) and drove past my local spar (in a tiny border town) outside, is about 10 young adults it's 10.15 two came out with two big cases of beer none wore masks no social distancing to most that's their problem but it's not you miss the picture if one has covid 19 they pass it onto to the others who then take it home to give mom dad gran etc ok that's fine too because hey that's their problem, but it's not, one will get really ill be it a young old or middleaged person they then get admitted to a bed blocked health service that im part of, the one that everyone banged the pots and pans for but now when we are all completely worn out it's starting to happen again more patients and staff are off with sickness and stress 4 phone calls today asking if I could go in they were desperate no staff on the minimum numbers (i had a day off, my first in 8 months thats a day off a single day)

yes my day off has been stressful standing on a beach in Wales with a colleague saying on the phone we are in the shit is just really fun

I don't like Boris or the government but I can understand it. if it was me I would do a rule of 2 I would lock it down and put massive fines in place for anyone not wearing a mask or staying apart

here's what it's like you go in scrub up get changed get a test full PPE no drinks no food now, you can't even take off the ppe to go to the loo constant washing constant cleaning you finish dof off wash come home knackered get in shower scrub and hope the test is negative worry like fuck till the next day when you get the text with the result then go back in for me it's worse I do bank hours so I worry even more as I still have to make mods to live its a never-ending circle

I signed up to care and nurse people I didn't sign up to possibly die from a virus

 

[burnt fingers]

No you haven't, when people make the choice to take unnecessary risks, that puts everyone at more risk of it spreading. How do you deem it okay for someone to take that decision for anyone they come in to contact with? Directly or indirectly, that's just impossible.

The ones you do sit down and explain the situation to, you could pass it on to them before they hear half of it. Then what?

What about anyone you pass it on to while you're just out, they then pass it on to others who take a really bad reaction? The more people just carry on as normal the more it spreads, the more it spreads the more people it hurts.

Yup correct its impossible , certainly for anyone who is out there working and mixing with the world right now . I might have picked it up from the dairy aisle in Sainsbury's today . Which is why I don't see the point in rules of six ...there was definitely more than six people in that aisle today .

Yeah that's what I do , I give them a hug , I sit them down ,take their hands in mine and explain it slowly while heavy breathing on them ...FFS your really clutching ain't you lol .


Seems like the same question again ...I will use first answer again for that one .