What's going on with the ELiquid Market?

[Lee]

#trufacts

 

[Colonelboom]

Well this went off piste quickly! I leave you all for a few hours and look what happens...

On pricing, I have no issue at all paying £4+ for a good quality 10ml, I've seen the amount of time and effort that some manufacturers put into their product, they earn & deserve every penny of that money. To those taking issue with this price, never look at the price of Red Vape, you will die with a leg up!

To invoke a comparison, why do people buy BMWs when they can drive a Lada Riva for a fraction of the price? Quality, reliability, experience and wants. Same principles apply to nearly all consumer goods, eliquid included.

If you just want the nic at the cheapest price possible? White label liquid is available. If you want a quality vape with great flavour, those are available aswell, but obviously they cost more. My initial post was relating to fact many companies are coming along now offering white label product at quality liquid price, just tarting it up with shiny labels.

Just so I'm not showing bias, I have DIY'd for years now, I also purchase alot of liquids from retailers. Why? Because certain liquids can't be replicated and others I simply want to support a great liquid maker and show my appreciation for the hardwork and talent they provide.

There's so many white label companies about now offering their services for dirt cheap. All have the same basic flavour lists to choose from that a new brand can just pick a strawberry for example and brand it with strawberries harvested from the tears of unicorns... flash label and out to a distro for a tiny but of profit.

No work, no development, no manufacturing facility and as a result no real responsibility or investment in gaping.

I can see where people get pissy with that.

But the suggestion n that every juice company is doing the same as keeps coming up in this thread is just making me laugh a little.

 

[Phil M]

This whole argument is so fucking boring. It’s the same shit that gets repeated time and time again.

The answer is, if you think it’s expensive, don’t buy it. The end.

I don’t, the end

 

[Phil M]

How was that anything other than a question? Admittedly a snarky one, which again, I have already apologised for. Reading incredulity in words on a page is a bit of a stretch.

I think I’m right though aren’t I

 

[eightbitraptor]

I think I’m right though aren’t I

No

 

[Phil M]

Did you actually know what the costs to develop, tweak, produce, store, who

There's so many white label companies about now offering their services for dirt cheap. All have the same basic flavour lists to choose from that a new brand can just pick a strawberry for example and brand it with strawberries harvested from the tears of unicorns... flash label and out to a distro for a tiny but of profit.

No work, no development, no manufacturing facility and as a result no real responsibility or investment in gaping.

I can see where people get pissy with that.

But the suggestion n that every juice company is doing the same as keeps coming up in this thread is just making me laugh a little.

I personally don’t think it’s every juice company, but it cannot be denied that there are some, maybe more than some but I don’t believe every company who charges the high prices needs to

 

[Colonelboom]

 

[Phil M]

No

No need to get snarky

 

[Colonelboom]

I personally don’t think it’s every juice company, but it cannot be denied that there are some, maybe more than some but I don’t believe every company who charges the high prices needs to

There are some, I gave a perfect example .

But there are those of us that would actually like to charge a touch more that can't and the only reason is that the costs of operating a juice business are astronomical and therefore the numbers of bottles sold not only has to be high enough to cover it all but constant enough too.

 

[Phil M]

If you’re happy to pay for it then do so if you aren’t don’t, but my opinion remains the same, a lot of liquids are grossly overpriced, and to compare it with other things that are overpriced is ridiculous, it doesn’t prove anyone’s argument it just proves other things are overpriced aswell