E-cigarettes: an evidence review. Public Health England

[RagingMammoth]

another more detailed page: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...armful-than-tobacco-estimates-landmark-review

Thanks for that.

Also, typo in the title... Oops


Sorted for you Fella

 

[3born]

It's all over gmb as well over got a vid but can't load it up

 

[welsh phil]

While any news that paints Vaping in a positive light is good news, I'll hold my breath. The report mentions regulation etc, and that means the Government will want to control it. This means for us price increases, a lack of innovation as manufacturers and juice companies won't be able to afford the testing costs for every new device and or juice.

Tobacco companies are really the only ones who are going to be rubbing their hands at this. As they churn out "approved devices" that are basically shit, the juice is nasty, but as long as the government get their money, they'll get the backing.

 

[city461]

While any news that paints Vaping in a positive light is good news, I'll hold my breath. The report mentions regulation etc, and that means the Government will want to control it. This means for us price increases, a lack of innovation as manufacturers and juice companies won't be able to afford the testing costs for every new device and or juice.

Tobacco companies are really the only ones who are going to be rubbing their hands at this. As they churn out "approved devices" that are basically shit, the juice is nasty, but as long as the government get their money, they'll get the backing.

I feel more positive about this report.. If you'd watched BBC breakfast the professor gadgy behind the report wasn't negative, even suggests to make e cigs available on prescription. The regulations were more about stopping kids etc starting on e cigs and glamorising them. I regard this UK GOV report as a BIG step forward admitting they help STOP people smoking and are 95% safer than analogues. Out of all the bad press we get this is a positive shining light at last.

 

[welsh phil]

Yep but it goes on to say "approved and regulated" which in my eyes means a drop in quality and a hike in price for any thing that survives.

While it mentions the benefits, which is all could, this could just be a way for the government to step in and control our hobby by citing the report, claiming that it needs regulating and licensing. They then can turn around and say "well you wanted a report, here it is and we're going to follow it's recommendations"

What we need is a report that says "it's less harmful than analogues and leave it alone for people to make their own minds up"

 

[malfuss]

I was listening to this on the radio on the way to work this morning, to say I was excited is an understatement!

While any news that paints Vaping in a positive light is good news, I'll hold my breath. The report mentions regulation etc, and that means the Government will want to control it. This means for us price increases, a lack of innovation as manufacturers and juice companies won't be able to afford the testing costs for every new device and or juice.

Tobacco companies are really the only ones who are going to be rubbing their hands at this. As they churn out "approved devices" that are basically shit, the juice is nasty, but as long as the government get their money, they'll get the backing.

But if you actually read the article it states:

"The revised TPD will introduce new regulations for EC or refill containers which are not
licensed by the MHRA. The cap on nicotine concentrations introduced by the TPD will
take high nicotine EC and refill liquids off the market, potentially affecting heavier
smokers seeking higher nicotine delivery products.

The fact that no licensed EC are yet on the market suggests that the licensing route to
market is not commercially attractive. The absence of non-tobacco industry products
going through the MHRA licensing process suggests that the process is inadvertently
favouring larger manufacturers including the tobacco industry, which is likely to inhibit
innovation in the prescription market. "

Personally, I think this is only good news for vaping. We know that TPD exists, we know our market will likely be restricted, but this report calls for a look into TPD and the way the UK implements it.

 

[city461]

Yep but it goes on to say "approved and regulated" which in my eyes means a drop in quality and a hike in price for any thing that survives.

While it mentions the benefits, which is all could, this could just be a way for the government to step in and control our hobby by citing the report, claiming that it needs regulating and licensing. They then can turn around and say "well you wanted a report, here it is and we're going to follow it's recommendations"

What we need is a report that says "it's less harmful than analogues and leave it alone for people to make their own minds up"

Cant be much clearer...
"E-cigarettes are 95% less harmful to your health than normal cigarettes"

 

[S2V]

E-cigarettes could be prescribed by the NHS to help smokers quit, report says - BBC News

 

[malfuss]

Yep but it goes on to say "approved and regulated" which in my eyes means a drop in quality and a hike in price for any thing that survives.

While it mentions the benefits, which is all could, this could just be a way for the government to step in and control our hobby by citing the report, claiming that it needs regulating and licensing. They then can turn around and say "well you wanted a report, here it is and we're going to follow it's recommendations"

What we need is a report that says "it's less harmful than analogues and leave it alone for people to make their own minds up"

I do agree with what you are saying, but surely this is an improvement on what we had before? If it means less draconian measures moving forward it's a positive result.

 

[pete1w]

E-cigarettes could be prescribed by the NHS to help smokers quit, report says - BBC News

and in other news bears shit in the woods and the pope is catholic............