E-cigarettes: an evidence review. Public Health England

[steffijade]

this has just come up on BBC website:
E-cigarettes should be prescribed on NHS to help smokers quit, report says

E-cigarettes could be prescribed by the NHS to help smokers quit, report says - BBC News

/ANTZ baiting mode on.

 

[retiredguy]

Inner Daily Mail... ON.
Cardigan?... Check.
Slippers?... Check.
Peugeot washed last Sunday and in garage 'til next Sunday? .. Check.
Here goes...
Dear Sir...
All that fuss in the newspapers this week about gluten free pizzas, donuts and such being available on prescription and now this. IN My Humble Opinion ( IMHO) people should jolly-well pay for their own electronic cigarette. My understanding is that electronic cigarette aficionados only ever need and therefore buy just the one product which lasts forever when regularly topped up with ' practically cost-free' nicotine essence. As these smokers who wish to switch to electronic cigarettes can obviously afford to buy twenty astronomically expensive tobacco cigarettes at regular intervals then surely they can well afford to buy one low cost electronic cigarette and associated paraphernalia - once. Why oh why should already hard pressed taxpayers be expected to pick up yet another bill?

 

[vaporsizer]

I see the comments under that article have the usual predictable slants.

Yesterday , to many Antibiotic prescriptions , today give E-cigs ! ! !

Told you so

Im a sexaholic- can the NHS pay for my massages too?
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We have yet to find a safe, cheap alternative to this 'sexahol' you are addicted to.

They're as bad as us lot.

I'm quite partial to strong real ale. I probably drink four or five pints a week.

Can I get a prescription for slightly weaker real ale free on the NHS? I figure that even allowing for the prescription charge? I'll be quids in, and the NHS will be doing its bit to wean me off the stronger stuff.

After all - my habit is potentially as damaging as any smokers, is it not?

I'm with him !

 

[jo_seph_b]

Inner Daily Mail... ON.
Cardigan?... Check.
Slippers?... Check.
Peugeot washed last Sunday and in garage 'til next Sunday? .. Check.
Here goes...
Dear Sir...
All that fuss in the newspapers this week about gluten free pizzas, donuts and such being available on prescription and now this. IN My Humble Opinion ( IMHO) people should jolly-well pay for their own electronic cigarette. My understanding is that electronic cigarette aficionados only ever need and therefore buy just the one product which lasts forever when regularly topped up with ' practically cost-free' nicotine essence. As these smokers who wish to switch to electronic cigarettes can obviously afford to buy twenty astronomically expensive tobacco cigarettes at regular intervals then surely they can well afford to buy one low cost electronic cigarette and associated paraphernalia - once. Why oh why should already hard pressed taxpayers be expected to pick up yet another bill?

As frustrating as it is we are already picking up the huge Bill from smoking. By having to treat everyone who's health has deteriorated as a result of it. So as frustrating as it is that some people will get it free it will save us money in the long run. Its all about the long game with this one as there won't be immediate savings for the NHS.

They'll be getting the ciggy like, sealed unit type I'd have thought, not a high end device. They are a rather inexpensive thing at the end of the day. Produced in mass for a market like the NHS it, just about, makes sense to me.

 

[knome]

Another sensible comment...

To those who say why should the NHS pay for them :

I'm quite happy to pay for my own vaping equipment if the government is happy to keep its nose out and avoid over regulating vaping products.

Vapers have managed quite happily without prescriptions or heavy handed regulation for years now.

We don't actually need either of them.

Leave us be and we'll be quite happy thank you.

 

[remnant]

Already said this elsewhere this morning, but I might as well repeat myself here: I'm uneasy about the inclusion of of the "with support of smoking cessation services" qualifier. Very cheeky, that.

I don't know of any vapers who have quit with the "support" of smoking cessation services (although some probably exist); I know a lot of vapers who did it after smoking cessation failed them utterly, and I know a lot who did so in the face of opposition, hostility and derision from said "services". There are exceptions, of course - the heroic Louise in Leicester springs to mind - but generally, the contribution of smoking cessation services has been less than glorious.

It's not immediately obvious how this is going to be reconciled with the TPD, either, when the most effective devices are going to be outlawed next May. Unless this represents another attempt to medicalise vaping...

 

[knome]

Faculty of Public Health (remember John Ashton?) still advocating quit or die, while reviewing the report carefully...

FPH :: FPH welcomes PHE e-cigarettes report

 

[Car147]

I still think they will regulate it to death, when any Gov body starts saying things like regulatory etc, it basically means tax raising, and filling the pockets of big business imo, I really hope I am wrong but I doubt it, Its being set up for Big T and P to move in the new vapers from next year

 

[retiredguy]

"I'm from the government and here to help."
Is right up there amongst 'things seldom heard and less often believed'.
For sure , as and when the powers that be become officially involved in vaping then things will get worse than they are now.
As they are now, to me; seems pretty much OK.
It's a self regulating market and we can buy what we need from where we choose.
Governments don't like that as it smacks of freedom.

 

[scottishvapehead_1]

While it sounds like good news ill hold my breath, the bloodsuckers will want there own way, the money signs are hitting there heads already.