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EFVI not allowed at Vapefest 2014

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Unless I've missed something, and I'm sure someone will put me right if I have. The decision to exclude EFVI from VF14, is based on two reasons. Money and politics.

Politics:
I was under the impression that EFVI was about the right to choose. The right to vape what you like, within reason. I don't see any political bias in that what so ever. They don't support any particular political party, to my knowledge. Their sole purpose, as I see it. Is to get the TPD changed for the benefit of all present and future e-cig users.

Money:
As someone said £95.00 for pitch (with insurance). Potential cost of cleansing leaflets. (not allowed, so N/A).

I've read also somewhere, that EFVI is not what VF is about. If it all goes t.ts up, you won't be allowed to advertise a VF, let alone hold one.
And if VF is all about vaping, drinking and looking at things I can't afford. I do that most evenings. All the fest type events I've ever been to, have info stalls scattered about.
So what's the point of any fest type of event, if it is not used to spread info about. If it was a double glazing firm or something, I would understand it. But something that is about as vaping as vaping gets. Be it political or not. I fail to see why the organizers didn't "ask them" to attend, you would have thought they would have put them at the gate, and get everyone to sign on entry.

This is my view, of what I see as an idiotic decision, and not necessarily that of this forum and it's other members
 
This is from one of the organisers/commitee, whatever the fuck they are called



THAT attitude stinks to high fucking heaven and made my mind up, no Vapefest for me, I will NOT support someone with such a cunty attitude.

Right, I do know who that reply was aimed at, and he is not bothered, because when you have rattled a arrogant person that they resort to personal insults, then its job done, also he is a truly awesome chap :D ...........and the best thing that can be done is to attend. Stand shoulder to shoulder and enjoy the day for what it is. There are ways and means around it, and we need to show the organisers that we dont have the potential narrow mindedness that they appear to have.


As above.
 
lol, do you think vendors are sitting around twiddling their dicks and waiting to go out of business?

get real mate, EFVI is going to be a drop in the ocean compared to the legal challenges to come...

don't fixate... educate...
 
Double post as I was that pissed off with someone that I hit the button twice.......And Relax......
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Just re read this bu*****t.

I really hope your new, currently, loss making venture works out well for you and your fingers don't make more double posts.

Here's a free quote.

"made from the "marine standard brass" of a long lost warship propeller, discovered under the western coast outcrop of a hard to reach island off the western coast of Scotland. only limited quantity available.

"see review by man in shed"

Sit back and wait for money

Yes you have pissed me off!
 
it doesn't technically cost anything to have a stall, Wayne just asks for a donation to the raffle... prizes...

it's up to you what you donate...

so chill people, i'm sure this will all be sorted...

and the guy who wants to stove Wayne's head in with a mech mod... good luck dude, you ever met the guy? lol...
Looks like we've forced a re-think by the last few posts I've seen - I think there is actually a charge for tables this year BTW
 
just an FYI.

No one from VF has been in touch with the peeps at EFVI about a possible change in their decision.
 
Right, I do know who that reply was aimed at, and he is not bothered, because when you have rattled a arrogant person that they resort to personal insults, then its job done, also he is a truly awesome chap :D ...........and the best thing that can be done is to attend. Stand shoulder to shoulder and enjoy the day for what it is. There are ways and means around it, and we need to show the organisers that we dont have the potential narrow mindedness that they appear to have.



As above.


It's a view, for sure.

I'm just tired of letting things slide by... and surely it's not narrow-minded to decide not to attend on the grounds that the event should be INclusive and not EXclusive.

Some things are more important to me than spending money on shinies, having a beer in good company and a natter with like-minded folk. I do all of that already... but I'm not going to support an event that is making decisions on my behalf - as a vaper - that I disagree with.

It's a tiny, pointless, protest, for sure... but it really only affects me.
 
the best thing that can be done is to attend. Stand shoulder to shoulder and enjoy the day for what it is. There are ways and means around it, and we need to show the organisers that we dont have the potential narrow mindedness that they appear to have.

Absolutely.
 
We have over 9000 members here and an average of 1000 active at any given time, we have the best forum in the country if not the world. The best is because we share very similar values, there is nothing stopping us from creating our own POTV Vapefest tailored to these great values we share. The top three values I believe we share are 1. Wisdom, 2. Info, 3. Friendliness. I believe what sets us apart from other people is that WE are not shortsighted and we are passionate about what we do.
 
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