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Have you actually read Article 20 of the TPD?

Have you actually read Article 20 of the TPD?

  • yes

    Votes: 45 73.8%
  • no

    Votes: 8 13.1%
  • I hadn't but I have now

    Votes: 8 13.1%

  • Total voters
    61
It was pushed thru without comment and despite protests ..

and largely backed by a certain female Labour MP who wouldn't listen to shit

It WILL be happening .. all that now remains is how the various governments choose to implement it.

So, do we stock up? Could we be charged by the police if we have a dripper and a mod? I hope to God that it isn't implemented like the document. It's annoying that its the tobacco giants that are behind this.
 
I bet you will still be able to buy 'parts' for larger tanks, but just won't be able to buy a completed unit. There is no way you could stop the mass manufacture of glass tubes and threaded pieces coming from China. It will make things tougher on the high street for sure, but if you are reading this now , on a vaping forum, there will always be ways around for the educated. The only pita is volume buying liquid. The ethical issue is something different of course!

There is no way you could be done for carrying a vapour devise with more than 2ml of juice in it. Lol


In relation to other deadly product you can buy its plain silly. I can right now order a cubic tonne of methanol to be sitting on my doorstep in 24 hours time. Thats pure 100% alcohol which i can store anywhere i like in my home. I know, because i have bought it in lesser volumes and have burnt it in my car engine many times.
 
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I bet you will still be able to buy 'parts' for larger tanks, but just won't be able to buy a completed unit. There is no way you could stop the mass manufacture of glass tubes and threaded pieces coming from China. It will make things tougher on the high street for sure, but if you are reading this now , on a vaping forum, there will always be ways around for the educated. The only pita is volume buying liquid. The ethical issue is something different of course!

There is no way you could be done for carrying a vapour devise with more than 2ml of juice in it. Lol


In relation to other deadly product you can buy its plain silly. I can right now order a cubic tonne of methanol to be sitting on my doorstep in 24 hours time. Thats pure 100% alcohol which i can store anywhere i like in my home. I know, because i have bought it in lesser volumes and have burnt it in my car engine many times.

Well, I've got a dripper which holds less than a mil of juice haha!

All my tanks and RDA's are re-buildable, no mention of kanthal in there and you can get organic cotton from asda! Will just have to be careful to not drop them!

So it's just the question of juice. Which all the ingredients can be bought in their separate form.

It's the people who are making the juices and selling the gear that I feel sorry for. I doubt very much there will be a black forum market ;)
 
Time to start learning how to make my own juice, christ i've only been on the forum a week...... Fast track! Either that or start weaning down to 0mg. I guess that vg and pg liquid will not be stopped if its not nico based.


Looks like there will be bedroom laboratories appearing in the near future to extract nico from other sources.... :16:
 
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I think the biggest question will be the availability of nicotine base. If they start limiting that, which they easily could do based on the wording, we could be in for a very difficult time. I already import most of my kit so provided that China doesn't stop production, which they have been threatening, I am pretty much set. Of course the number of new vapers is going to drop off rapidly.

Who is in power in 10 days time could make quite a difference to how the legislation is put into force on the ground, and that could make the difference between it being relatively easy to carry on as we are and a complete nightmare.
 
I think the biggest question will be the availability of nicotine base. If they start limiting that, which they easily could do based on the wording, we could be in for a very difficult time. I already import most of my kit so provided that China doesn't stop production, which they have been threatening, I am pretty much set. Of course the number of new vapers is going to drop off rapidly.

Who is in power in 10 days time could make quite a difference to how the legislation is put into force on the ground, and that could make the difference between it being relatively easy to carry on as we are and a complete nightmare.

Is pharmaceutical nicotine used for any other purposes in industry?
 
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