Have you actually read Article 20 of the TPD?

[korgscrew]

Is pharmaceutical nicotine used for any other purposes in industry?

Is coffee?

Pretty much the same drug, just ingested differently.

From what I've read, just nic patches and as a stimulant.

 

[Diche]

It has a similar effect to caffeine in many ways, but it is a very different drug. It is used by the pharmaceutical companies, but of course they all have medical licences, and it is still used as a pesticide I believe by organic gardeners, but that doesn't have to be pharmaceutical grade which is what we need. If they brought in a licensing requirement for nicotine over 20mg/ml they could make the average Diyers life very difficult.

 

[ZT]

So, do we stock up? Could we be charged by the police if we have a dripper and a mod? I hope to God that it isn't implemented like the document. It's annoying that its the tobacco giants that are behind this.

While the tobacco giants are bad and part of the problem, The bigger and more worrying and more powerful culprits are big pharma

id rather deal with big tobacco, they at least don't pretend to to be helping people.

 

[skraggy_uk]

Nicotine can be used in pesticides. I can see a growth on the home mix pesticide hobby industry.

 

[EthelKing]

Is pharmaceutical nicotine used for any other purposes in industry?

This is where it gets VERY interesting. The fact of the matter is that nicotine is nicotine regardless of its intended final use. Pharmaceutical or industrial. Not much difference. Nicotine is nicotine.

If the "pricks that be" start implementing harsh policies and penalties, and I'm willing to bet that imports from outside the EU will largely be unaffected, order small and expect a percentage of seizures; however, people are going to start taking chances with weird and wonderful nicotine sources and will quickly work out that small bottles of pure nicotine are a lot easier to slip through undetected rather than a litre or gallon bottle.

People will be hurt, and possibly killed, as a result of idiotic policies such as the TPD being implemented for nafarious reasons, under the guise of public health.

I wonder if Linda McAvan et al thought it through that far when they were scheming in the back room? I doubt it very much as they have absolutely no idea what is actually going on in the vaping "scene".

 

[blaze]

Nicotine hasn't been allowed to be used as a pesticide for many years. (I'm not saying people don't ...)

Incidentally, and to emphasise how rushed and ludicrous this piece of legislation is, it never mentions capacity of 2ml, it mentions volume - an entirely different beast.

 

[tonystr]

Yes I read ages ago, pretty scary.

 

[Enoch]

What makes me wonder about all of this is you could walk around with mega tanks and all of that and what would even happen to you? Would you be arrested because your e cig tanks was too big? Fined?

the whole thing is silly when you think ther eis very easy work arounds and noone will be bothered to implement anything.

Imagine the uproar though if e cig users who break the rules on what they can and cant have get treated the same as if they were carrying class c drugs.........

 

[tonystr]

I'm hoping at the worst it will be like snus. Legal to use but not legal to buy from the EU. It's this ffing TPD that's partially responsible for my shineyitis. And the snus ban that caused me to stockpile snus.

Do we actually have any say in what rules we have to live by anymore. We can vote but it'll be just the same old same old

 

[Huggett]

If it passes I see a surge in 'torch paraphernalia' metal tube torches with 510 connectors for LED attachments. (That already exists)

A surge in sales to the far east, and a major boom in 'torch modding parts'


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