Have you actually read Article 20 of the TPD?

[rachel_tw]

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Article 20 Tobacco Products Directive Legal Challenge - Totally Wicked Legal Challenge Article 20 TPD

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[cheersm8]

Something overlooked, and yet pertinent to the outcome of the TPD and it's effects on vaping is that the legislation only applies to e-cigarettes, and only ever will.
Something that will, I feel, define our vaping future.
Or, to put that another way, I'll still be happily vaping whatever, whenever and however I wish, for as long as I wish despite the existence of a white paper called the TPD.
Call me thick if you wish, but looking at all of the vape gear that I currently use, none of it falls within the scope of the TPD.
Oh yes, the TPD may well be a proverbial pain in the arse for any smoker that wakes up in the morning and thinks to themselves, "I fancy trying an e-cig instead of smoking" because they will pretty much be limited to buying a blister pack cigalike from Tesco, but then again, most do that already, anyway, as their 1st step.

There have been restrictive Legislations covering all manner of every day activities for a lot longer than the TPD hatched from the bureaucratic egg but equipment/items that enable a person to conduct that activity outside of the restraints of the legislation are still very easily available and in normal, everyday use.


I'm not saying that the TPD should go unopposed, far from it, but even the most draconian implementation of legislative law can't put a limit onto the adaptability of people.

 

[3dj]

The TPD wont bother me, cos it feels so empty without me. Na na na na, na na na na na, na na na na na na. na na na na.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVkUvmDQ3HY&list=RDYVkUvmDQ3HY#t=0

I'm drunk. But I don't give a fuck. So lets all get bothered with the TPD. Wankers.

 

[grahams_boy]

Signed.

 

[Diche]

Signed.

I will take that as a no, lol

 

[grahams_boy]

I will take that as a no, lol

You'll take what as a no?

 

[Diche]

You'll take what as a no?

The fact you didn't answer the question asked lol, admittedly the question you answered is quite popular

 

[crustyfolker]

The TPD is not going to get the go a head if it;s put forward that if vaping is to be curtailed people will return to tobacco, which will mean the tobacco companies and those who want the TPD rules will in sense be responsible for the murder and gbh abh of people who they have caused to return to the worst form of drugs available tobacco. why tobacco products are even legal is crazy. it's actually all about greed for money that has caused this TPD crap in the begining, But now the nhs is saying e cigs should be used for snokibg cesation. Anyone who argues adainst vaping is being payed to do so.

 

[Chronic Screwdriver]

The recent BBC reporting of studies suggesting e-cigs (or whatever we choose to call our devices) is very positive. You can only get 5% better than 95%
less harmful after all

However, The TPD has already been passed by the EU, and will become part of UK law in the 2nd quarter of 2016, under the direction of our MHRA.

TW is legally disputing aspects of article 20, the part that specifically details requirements for devices considered to be 'e-cigarettes' (and this
includes all currently available devices capable of supplying nicotine in vapour form, regardless of how we name them).

Some of these details are worth challenging (how can you have a truly leak free filling system?) but details and updates of TW's challenge are less
than forthcoming, I'm sure any info would be well supported.

Wire, wick and batteries are unlikely to be affected, mods perhaps more so, Tanks/RTA/RDA certainly.

The most frustrating aspect may be that I have to watch vaping evolve in other countries as fast as it has here in the UK in the past few years, but be
unable to partake, due to the new devices being illegal here.

Sucks.

 

[Koeshi]

The TPD is not going to get the go a head if it;s put forward that if vaping is to be curtailed people will return to tobacco, which will mean the tobacco companies and those who want the TPD rules will in sense be responsible for the murder and gbh abh of people who they have caused to return to the worst form of drugs available tobacco. why tobacco products are even legal is crazy. it's actually all about greed for money that has caused this TPD crap in the begining, But now the nhs is saying e cigs should be used for snokibg cesation. Anyone who argues adainst vaping is being payed to do so.

Tobacco is legal for the same reason alcohol is, there are too many people that use it and too much industry involved to just get rid of it.