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Should restrictions be lifted on the 19th?

Should restrictions including wearing masks and social distancing be lifted on the 19th?

  • Yes

    Votes: 17 33.3%
  • No

    Votes: 25 49.0%
  • Don't know

    Votes: 3 5.9%
  • Banana

    Votes: 6 11.8%

  • Total voters
    51
  • Poll closed .
According to the Government’s Covid Dashboard, there are still no patients at my local hospital (St Mary’s) being treated for Covid-19, nor any new deaths... .. with a local paper reporting that "ventilation beds at St Mary’s haven’t been used in 10 weeks"

.... also (according to Gov website) the county is between 85%-89% double jabbed (depending on actual area) now.

I don't really care what's happening in Scotland. ;)
 
According to the Government’s Covid Dashboard, there are still no patients at my local hospital (St Mary’s) being treated for Covid-19, nor any new deaths... .. with a local paper reporting that "ventilation beds at St Mary’s haven’t been used in 10 weeks"

.... also (according to Gov website) the county is between 85%-89% double jabbed (depending on actual area) now.

I don't really care what's happening in Scotland. ;)

The 85-89% double jabbed probably refers to a select age group. If not you're doing a lot better than most of the country uptake-wise.
 
According to the Government’s Covid Dashboard, there are still no patients at my local hospital (St Mary’s) being treated for Covid-19, nor any new deaths... .. with a local paper reporting that "ventilation beds at St Mary’s haven’t been used in 10 weeks"

.... also (according to Gov website) the county is between 85%-89% double jabbed (depending on actual area) now.

I don't really care what's happening in Scotland. ;)

Everything is going in the right direction in Scotland
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53511877
 
they’ve been predicting 100 000 cases a day, of which 1000 hospitalisations would represent 1%, which must be close to your figure of 0.456 % vaccinated (assuming that the figure of 40% of hospital cases fully vaccinated is accurate). no?

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Aye that makes sense.

Except......

The 40% isn't necessarily fully vaccinated, how many they had isn't factored in, so either one or both. You would presume that number is more single vaccinations as double is where the protection really is but that isn't broken down.

But the more you vaccinate , the lower the number of hospital admissions gets. If the number who have not been vaccinated decreases, so does the number then going to hospital. Despite the cases being similar to January , the deaths aren't because of the age groups involved.

So to get 1000 hospital cases a day you cross between vaccinations providing protection and not. Literally there is a cut off point that only gets crossed when the vaccine doesn't protect people anymore.

The point being , if only 1.5% currently are ending up in hospital , that number isn't going to drop that much lower to change the perspective between crisis and everything is fine.

If you said back in Jan only 1.5% cases go to hospital , everyone would agree that was the point that restrictions should be gone. Yet here we are and people are still acting like the country is burning.

Thanks. :)

You have to remember that only just over half the actual population is fully vaccinated though?

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More than half actually!

And the target is to have everyone done by September which to be fair the country has hit it's vaccination targets every single time. So that's two months away from full vaccination, so theoretically that 1.5% drops even lower than before , no matter how high the daily cases rise to.

That and the logical eventually you run out of people without actual antibodies at current rate , even naturally if 40k a day are naturally catching it and only 1.5% end up in hospital , theoretically that would drop figures without a needle.
 
Aye that makes sense.

Except......

The 40% isn't necessarily fully vaccinated, how many they had isn't factored in, so either one or both. You would presume that number is more single vaccinations as double is where the protection really is but that isn't broken down.

But the more you vaccinate , the lower the number of hospital admissions gets. If the number who have not been vaccinated decreases, so does the number then going to hospital. Despite the cases being similar to January , the deaths aren't because of the age groups involved.

So to get 1000 hospital cases a day you cross between vaccinations providing protection and not. Literally there is a cut off point that only gets crossed when the vaccine doesn't protect people anymore.

The point being , if only 1.5% currently are ending up in hospital , that number isn't going to drop that much lower to change the perspective between crisis and everything is fine.

If you said back in Jan only 1.5% cases go to hospital , everyone would agree that was the point that restrictions should be gone. Yet here we are and people are still acting like the country is burning.



More than half actually!

And the target is to have everyone done by September which to be fair the country has hit it's vaccination targets every single time. So that's two months away from full vaccination, so theoretically that 1.5% drops even lower than before , no matter how high the daily cases rise to.

That and the logical eventually you run out of people without actual antibodies at current rate , even naturally if 40k a day are naturally catching it and only 1.5% end up in hospital , theoretically that would drop figures without a needle.

you also need to factor in the level of restrictions, which i don’t think you have.
 
The 85-89% double jabbed probably refers to a select age group. If not you're doing a lot better than most of the country uptake-wise.

We are ahead for sure, my kids (both in their 20's) were offered it weeks before it was 'announced'

We have an older than average population though, so at first it seemed that we were behind, it took about 4 weeks later than I was hoping for me to be offered my first... but once we got through all the oldies things sped up really fast. :)
 
agreed, the other important thing that isn’t mentioned is long covid, most of whom end up with it weren’t even admitted to hospital.

Long covid has been a pretty general term that dismisses one thing, most of the symptoms of it are actually effects of pneumonia. Go and look it up , was a eye opener when I read up about it.

So long covid as a fear term is extremely misleading, the long covid symptoms generally will never be as bad as someone in hospital and that latter one is dropping all the time.

But anxiety , insomnia and depression are not side effects of a bloody virus. That is Molly coddling people to an extreme.
 
you also need to factor in the level of restrictions, which i don’t think you have.

What restrictions were in place last week? No nightclubs........... What else is different from last week than today?
 
Aye that makes sense.

Except......

The 40% isn't necessarily fully vaccinated, how many they had isn't factored in, so either one or both. You would presume that number is more single vaccinations as double is where the protection really is but that isn't broken down.

But the more you vaccinate , the lower the number of hospital admissions gets. If the number who have not been vaccinated decreases, so does the number then going to hospital. Despite the cases being similar to January , the deaths aren't because of the age groups involved.

So to get 1000 hospital cases a day you cross between vaccinations providing protection and not. Literally there is a cut off point that only gets crossed when the vaccine doesn't protect people anymore.

The point being , if only 1.5% currently are ending up in hospital , that number isn't going to drop that much lower to change the perspective between crisis and everything is fine.

If you said back in Jan only 1.5% cases go to hospital , everyone would agree that was the point that restrictions should be gone. Yet here we are and people are still acting like the country is burning.



More than half actually!

And the target is to have everyone done by September which to be fair the country has hit it's vaccination targets every single time. So that's two months away from full vaccination, so theoretically that 1.5% drops even lower than before , no matter how high the daily cases rise to.

That and the logical eventually you run out of people without actual antibodies at current rate , even naturally if 40k a day are naturally catching it and only 1.5% end up in hospital , theoretically that would drop figures without a needle.

No, 53% of the total population is about right. We are not even trying to vaccinate the entire population. Currently 88% of adults have one dose and nearly 69% of adults.*ADDED: have both*

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