Should restrictions be lifted on the 19th?

[knome]

It's a blessing I don't DIY my juices.

 

[Crewella]

Right so even with the figures I'm plucking them out of the air? Haha wow people are so skeptical these days.

For the weekly covid tests , literally the news every day.

For the hospital patients , right from valance mouth.

Percent of unvaccinated , valance mouth again

Deaths , literally the government website.

Plucking numbers out the air hahaha

Do I need to link the gov site or a video of valance saying it, or a collection of headlines from every day?

Yes please, and the dates would help. Figures for those in hospital are always several days behind the infection and deaths figures.

 

[zouzounaki]

Where are you getting these figures from? What does the above even mean? That statement makes no sense, you seem to be talking out of your arse, to be honest

“some sort of vaccine”. i think i had a bcg, and caught mumps when i was a nipper.

 

[zouzounaki]

When has it not been? Haha

It's me, I have previous re decimal pointery.

come on @Sacred Vape you must remember the exchange where @vapesmarter and i had to explain to you how maths works?

 

[Enoch]

Yes please, and the dates would help. Figures for those in hospital are always several days behind the infection and deaths figures.

You know that would lower the figure further right? Haha

For deaths https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

(Seems figure I quoted before was just England and Wales so slight increase in that 0.06, maybe 0.065 now?

Number in hospital as of yesterday / ratio of unvaccinated
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.s...al-with-coronavirus-are-unvaccinated-12359317

For number of weekly tests as of last week https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Which has a higher number than the average 280k meaning most of the figures i used are actually LOWER than I thought.


Actually funny that something I have said before with all the we could have this and that , such as valance saying we could have 1000 hospital cases a day. Seems the vaccinated in hospital is only 0.456% of weekly positive cases.

So how on earth do we get 1000 cases a day when we are 2 months away from having the country fully vaccinated AND the current rate of positive tests only results in less than half a percent needing to go into hospital?

It's actually impossible now to have 1000 covid patients in hospital a day without completely negating the vaccine itself. To have 1000 cases a day as valance thinks , you would have to have millions of positive tests a day.

 

[zouzounaki]

It's actually impossible now to have 1000 covid patients in hospital a day without completely negating the vaccine itself. To have 1000 cases a day as valance thinks , you would have to have millions of positive tests a day.

they’ve been predicting 100 000 cases a day, of which 1000 hospitalisations would represent 1%, which must be close to your figure of 0.456 % vaccinated (assuming that the figure of 40% of hospital cases fully vaccinated is accurate). no?

edited for clarity

 

[Crewella]

You know that would lower the figure further right? Haha

For deaths https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

(Seems figure I quoted before was just England and Wales so slight increase in that 0.06, maybe 0.065 now?

Number in hospital as of yesterday / ratio of unvaccinated
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.s...al-with-coronavirus-are-unvaccinated-12359317

For number of weekly tests as of last week https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Which has a higher number than the average 280k meaning most of the figures i used are actually LOWER than I thought.


Actually funny that something I have said before with all the we could have this and that , such as valance saying we could have 1000 hospital cases a day. Seems the vaccinated in hospital is only 0.456% of weekly positive cases.

So how on earth do we get 1000 cases a day when we are 2 months away from having the country fully vaccinated AND the current rate of positive tests only results in less than half a percent needing to go into hospital?

It's actually impossible now to have 1000 covid patients in hospital a day without completely negating the vaccine itself. To have 1000 cases a day as valance thinks , you would have to have millions of positive tests a day.

Thanks.

You have to remember that only just over half the actual population is fully vaccinated though?

 

[Crispycritters]

they’ve been predicting 100 000 cases a day, of which 1000 hospitalisations would represent 1%, which must be close to your figure of 0.4 odd % vaccinated (assuming that the figure of 40% of hospital cases fully vaccinated is accurate). no?

What these figures can't predict is just how long the hospitalised will stay in hospital, some may be there for a week - others could be there for a month. 1,000 a day may be acceptable if they are in and out in days, but if they linger for months 100 a day could tip the scales. Playing the statistics game can be a bit of a gamble because it can't cover every aspect.

 

[Leni]

 

[zouzounaki]

What these figures can't predict is just how long the hospitalised will stay in hospital, some may be there for a week - others could be there for a month. 1,000 a day may be acceptable if they are in and out in days, but if they linger for months 100 a day could tip the scales. Playing the statistics game can be a bit of a gamble because it can't cover every aspect.

agreed, the other important thing that isn’t mentioned is long covid, most of whom end up with it weren’t even admitted to hospital.