The Dreaded TPD begins, be aware !

[Timwis]

Thanks for the blatant sales pitch lol

sorry i thought i had just copied the paragraph when i pasted it i gringed myself now got sunglasses on lol

 

[Timwis]

Darkstar's freezer packs are Argon sealed also.

good will help have people bought the industrial -20c freezers

 

[Timwis]

good will help have people bought the industrial -20c freezers

And that place is trying to sell you there product and even they are saying 2 years

 

[Mr Numpty]

good will help have people bought the industrial -20c freezers

Some have, but domestic freezers will still dramatically reduce the movement of molecules within the liquid, perhaps more so those of the already thicker VG based nicotine, according to our resident chemist.
As far as I can determine, no-one has stored nicotine long term in a freezer as yet in order to determine how it will fare, so it's all speculation. However, more than one chemist has stated that it should in theory keep up to 10 years and possibly beyond if stored correctly in a domestic freezer.
It's going to be an interesting experiment for those who are taking part and no-one can say they didn't try. Isn't that what life is all about?

 

[Timwis]

Umm Nicotine isn't used as a pesticide anymore and hasn't been for a while hence it isn't available to Joe Public Mr Retired Gardener/Farmer on the open market as a pesticide, it's uses were widespread for weed killing etc but the effect on the environment (bees for instance) was finally deemed as too harmful and hence now not used nor available in your local garden centre/farm shop.

It is however available from some chemical distributors still i.e. Darrant as already mentioned in this thread but all you have to do is see the colour of their nicotine to realise that you wouldn't really want to use it for vaping, as far as I am aware you will indeed need a license of some description to still purchase it and that would be in bulk and not 100ml here and there.

people on another thread are moaning about Darrant's speed (or lack of it) and customer service but people have recieved nicotine and they aren't mentioning lack of quality.

 

[Timwis]

Some have, but domestic freezers will still dramatically reduce the movement of molecules within the liquid, perhaps especially those of the already thicker VG based nicotine, according to our resident chemist.
As far as I can determine, no-one has stored nicotine long term in a freezer as yet in order to determine how it will fare, so it's all speculation. However, more than one chemist has stated that it should in theory keep up to 10 years and possibly beyond if stored correctly in a domestic freezer.
It's going to be an interesting experiment for those who are taking part and no-one can say they didn't try. Isn't that what life is all about?

do you know how defrosting then refreezing affects it have vision of someone who's spent £100's of pounds on nicotine getting home after holiday to find their freezer packed up.

 

[Mr Numpty]

do you know how defrosting then refreezing affects it have vision of someone who's spent £100's of pounds on nicotine getting home after holiday to find their freezer packed up.

Shouldn't be a problem, if they don't wait too long to buy a new freezer.

 

[andipandi]

The whole thing is madness, sale of the century and then what? I feel sorry for the folks who don't have the money to buy lots of tanks and juice right now because in a weeks time the vape internet will be empty and short of buying from China the whole scene will be stagnant (for how many years?). The tanks that will be available surely won't be that good at all, like being stuck in a time warp performance wise, refilling every 5 minutes using horrible hard plastic 10ml bottles that are hardly squeezable.

 

[Simon G]

The whole thing is madness, sale of the century and then what? I feel sorry for the folks who don't have the money to buy lots of tanks and juice right now because in a weeks time the vape internet will be empty and short of buying from China the whole scene will be stagnant (for how many years?). The tanks that will be available surely won't be that good at all, like being stuck in a time warp performance wise, refilling every 5 minutes using horrible hard plastic 10ml bottles that are hardly squeezable.

I've only had one TPD compliant bottle and it was super squishy. .... small consolation I know, but........

 

[deleteuser47111]

The whole thing is madness, sale of the century and then what? I feel sorry for the folks who don't have the money to buy lots of tanks and juice right now because in a weeks time the vape internet will be empty and short of buying from China the whole scene will be stagnant (for how many years?). The tanks that will be available surely won't be that good at all, like being stuck in a time warp performance wise, refilling every 5 minutes using horrible hard plastic 10ml bottles that are hardly squeezable.

As I have only been vaping a week I was worried about the TPD and after some research I am not worried at all. I have plenty of TPD compliant 10ml bottles here and the all squeeze fine. I am not filling my 2ml tanks every 5 minutes, prehaps once every 8 hours. Also finding a workable solution to smaller tanks is super easy. I have already found plenty of suppliers that sell tank expansion kits cheaply. That is before I have looked at buying tanks from suppliers outside of the EU.

It is not an ideal situation, but it is not the doomsday scenario that is being predicted.