The vape that helps you quit – one puff at a time.

[Dqrkthing]

Despite the comments above, I don't think it's such a bad idea. In theory... but I am unconvinced that it would work in the field.

1. You're tied in to the proprietary system. There are too many variables, options, opinions and personal tastes for one single system so suit so many people.
2. Do that many people really want their vaping regulated by an app? What if you're stressed and you need an extra toke or 2? Yes you could build in systems to override restrictions temporarily or whatever, but...
3. It sounds like a lot of faff - vaping is enough faff anyway without needing an app to make it worse
4. How do you deal with variables like length of draw, intensity of draw, and nic levels?
5. Manufacturing - have you thought about how you will develop this and get it to market? Most vape manufacturers (and certainly affordable ones) are chinese, so it won't be here in the uk where you can get involved
6. Distribution - a bit like music (cds, records) distribution, vape distribution is quite niche, and probably stitched up (I could be wrong, just a guess)
7. Maintaining market share - have you seen the clones of high end vape stuff? They're very good and original producers seem powerless to stop them. If you're outsourcing production to the chinese, I virtually guarantee you there will be a knock off version at half the price within weeks

The above, combined with it being pretty expensive... cos you have to make a profit, right?.... I just can't see that much uptake.

Sorry to piss on your fire. I do actually like the idea, but I am struggling to see how it would work in reality. And while I would like to suggest ideas to be more positive, and overcome the above negatives, I'm not actually able to think of any right now.

1. So, I live in Germany, and most of the best-selling e-cigarettes here use the pod system. It contains 20 mg/mL nicotine and 2 mL liquid.

2 & 3. I doubt it's that difficult or tiring. Maybe I could make 3 models, each for one mode. No switching of modes.

4. Instead of puffs, you could set a timer that counts down with each puff. The draw strength is controlled by the constant vaporization energy. As soon as the device recognizes that someone is drawing on it, it no longer adjusts the draw strength but always uses the same energy to vaporize.

5 & 7. There are a few factories in Germany, and it wouldn't be particularly cheap for paints in China to replicate my idea. At least not until my brand has built up a name for itself and, in the best case, is selling better and better. By then, at the latest, duplicates can no longer be ruled out, but they would sell poorly in Germany, which is why no duplicates could prevail, at least in Germany.

6. That's probably true. Here you can only rely on luck or a lot of knowledge. Maybe investors too. Also social media.

Its late, and my head doesn't work properly. Maybe nothing of this makes sense, but maybe its a way to get closer to the goal.

 

[Dqrkthing]

Most modern pods systems and mods have puff counters on them so you can track usage that way. My old Vinci pod device tracks 14 day daily usage stats, I've never used it though.
Alot of people trying to quit or go nicotine free just slowly and incrementally add less nicotine to there shortfills/longfills.

"Alot of people trying to quit or go nicotine-free just slowly and incrementally add less nicotine to there shortfills/longfills." Yes, but its way more expensive than just buying a battery carrier and pods with liquid for a total of ~25 €. If you already own a battery carrier, you can buy a pack of pods (2 pods) for €10. These would not differ from, e.g., Elfbar pods, which also ensures that you can install different pods from different manufacturers.

 

[Rickster]

Trial it and see, it would be wasted on me though, Im a free spirit, setting limits on anything isn't my bag....good luck with it though

 

[DMAN]

My plan is exactly the opposite. I want to give people who want to quit smoking an effective way to do so. With the three modes you can either vape normally like any other, or you can set a program to help you stop.

So you want folk on a vaping forum to stop vaping?

 

[John R Phillips]

So you want folk on a vaping forum to stop vaping?

That would seem to be the case.
The cart is at the wrong end of the horse.
Priority number 1 is to stop folk starting to smoke.
Priority number 2 is to encourage folk to quit smoking, or at least cut down dramatically. If that entails moving to vaping, so be it.
Apart from a few sensationalised cases of teenagers who claim to be “addicted to vaping” I see no mass call from vapers who are desperate to quit and looking for assistance.

 

[Dqrkthing]

So you want folk on a vaping forum to stop vaping?

Well I just wanted your opinion for now. As you might thought, it’s completely up to the vaper if he wants to stop. This could be a way for people who don’t have enough discipline to actually stop.

 

[Dqrkthing]

That would seem to be the case.
The cart is at the wrong end of the horse.
Priority number 1 is to stop folk starting to smoke.
Priority number 2 is to encourage folk to quit smoking, or at least cut down dramatically. If that entails moving to vaping, so be it.
Apart from a few sensationalised cases of teenagers who claim to be “addicted to vaping” I see no mass call from vapers who are desperate to quit and looking for assistance.

I can say that over here in germany, many people try to quit. Mostly people from the age 16-25.

 

[MHL]

I think the problem is, certainly here in the UK, most vapers have been trained to be very cynical - we've had to put up with a lifetime of tax / legislation / bullshit from the government and media, while the former simultaneously take every opportunity to hoover up more of our meagre income in "sin tax".

Mate, if you have thought it through, and you still feel like there is a market for your invention, then go for it!

Perhaps it would be helpful to see more details, screenshots etc, then we could provide better feedback. But I understand why you are being secretive.

 

[John R Phillips]

I can say that over here in germany, many people try to quit. Mostly people from the age 16-25.

Sounds like German Trading Standards have been as effective as those in the UK at keeping vapes out of the hands of children

 

[vapervince]

Would be quitters are addicts and addicts are very good at making excuses for not following plans / programs and will follow their own way, so in my experience Ricksters post gives an accurate picture of the scenario for the early quitters, it certainly reflects my plan to quitting, I tried prescription drugs, hypnotism, cold turkey and nothing worked until I took control and started vaping, reducing the nicotine strength and content by my own volition until today when I buy zero nic juices, to some of which I add no nic and if I fancy it add just a little, but the important bit is, I`m in control.