To flavour, or not to flavour................

[3dj]

If you read the OSHA report it was written in 2010, Since a lot of flavor company's have eliminated diacetyl from their flavorings. Most flavoring company's will tell you if their flavoring contains diacetyl or if they are diacetyl free.

But when we buy flavourings from ecig vendors, how do we know if they are diacetyl free?

 

[whipitup]

I use Cappela flavourings, and they don't (are not allowed) use Diacetyl, but I understand they have replaced that with either
Acetyl Propionyl (2,3-Pentanedione) or Acetoin in some flavours.

I am lead to believe that when heated they produce Diacetyl in small concentrations.

At the minute I've added some Mint flavouring (at the rate of 1 drop per ml) to give some flavour. I'm pretty sure the Mint flavours dont contain
any of the above chemicals.

I'm also awaiting a list of flavours from Cappela and Liberty Flights that also don't contain any of the above flavours.

 

[Gonloopy]

Pretty sure Capella and flavourart state no diacetyl in any of their concentrates, but will be interested in their response

 

[Gonloopy]

But when we buy flavourings from ecig vendors, how do we know if they are diacetyl free?

Exactly, it all depends from where they are getting their concentrates, a major manufacturer who is up to speed on the potential risks, or a supermarket....

 

[whipitup]

Pretty sure Capella and flavourart state no diacetyl in any of their concentrates, but will be interested in their response

But they have replaced that with either Acetyl Propinyl or Acetoin, and apparently when heated produce Diacetyl.

Which includes Chocolate (which I vape all the time).

 

[3dj]

I use Cappela flavourings, and they don't (are not allowed) use Diacetyl, but I understand they have replaced that with either
Acetyl Propionyl (2,3-Pentanedione) or Acetoin in some flavours.

I am lead to believe that when heated they produce Diacetyl in small concentrations.

At the minute I've added some Mint flavouring (at the rate of 1 drop per ml) to give some flavour. I'm pretty sure the Mint flavours dont contain
any of the above chemicals.

I'm also awaiting a list of flavours from Cappela and Liberty Flights that also don't contain any of the above flavours.

Let us know what your findings are mate. I use cappela, kandi hed and t-juice flavourings. Don't know what's in them.



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[whipitup]

Let us know what your findings are mate. I use cappela, kandi hed and t-juice flavourings. Don't know what's in them.



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All I've had back from Cappella is this:

"We have options on the website for AP free Vanilla custard and French vanilla. All of the flavors
are diacetyl free."

I will press them for more info.

 

[Scuba-Matt]

Cigarettes contain Diacetyl.

 

[3dj]

All I've had back from Cappella is this:

"We have options on the website for AP free Vanilla custard and French vanilla. All of the flavors
are diacetyl free."

I will press them for more info.

Good man. Keep us updated.


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[Gonloopy]

Interesting, I know that diacetyl in large quantities can give bronxhiolitis obliterans ( pretty similar to emphysema), but these was inhalation on a large scale. What the large scale was never quantified in a way so that we could make comparisons to vaping.


Probably worth holding in our heads , as with any potential hazard it is not just the toxicity of the product but also the concentration. If it's minute it may still not pose a problem.


I could be stood corrected but isn't flavourart working with dr farsalinos to analyse the chemical breakdown of vapour? (dunno where I heard that, and could be very wrong, -it's just ringing somewhere in the back of my head)


I suspect you may know more than me on this but isn't diacetyl added to give a buttery taste? -so those could be avoided if necessary. I'm sure other flavours could be found that doesn't contain the other additives you highlight too. I do agree with you though, the greatest potential danger to health from vaping is in the flavours, and the safest route is non flavoured juices altogether