UK Gov To Ban Disposables?

[zouzounaki]

Certainly, there are sectors that will rejoice in a ban. And if the government were to announce that they had no intention of bringing in a ban (very unlikely) they’d get the right hump.(edit: Whether they’d actually lose any votes as a result of that particular action is debatable)
My point was that if the government did not pursue the legislation prior to any election, they would not lose any votes - Particularly from the the likes of the DM audience who will tut-tut away but still continue to put their X in the blue box like lambs to the slaughter.

i don’t think they’ll see it as something that risks losing votes, but rather that might gain them support. they can’t do anything about the other issues you listed. this one would be an easy win for them and they would be unlikely to encounter much dissent in the parliament, i would imagine. maybe terminal nutters like swayne or fabricant would abstain.

 

[Lisa Bolton]

To many people that use disposables is because they can. Many have never smoked before and just felt like trying them because they are everywhere. Getting hooked on nicotine because they enjoy the taste. Kids love the sweet syrup sprays and they are tempted and are able to buy them. Dodgy retailers or online from sites not using age verification. You can't argue with the fact people are stupid and will jump on any trend regardless of the consequences. Those that really need them won't get a look in. Heated tobacco and tobacco or menthol flavours of liquid looks a pretty miserable future.

 

[zouzounaki]

it was good while it lasted

 

[vapesmarter]

I think it will happen regardless of whether we want it or not, or what we might wish for.

They were a bad idea, Helen saw it, I saw it, Martyn saw it and many others. The company I worked for saw it and stood firm and they don't exist any more as they refuse to go down that road because they believed in the end it would be detrimental to UK vaping as a whole. And yes, it will probably lead to more turmoil and more bans and more job losses and more business going under.

I can't honestly see a way out now though, the opportunity was missed, when even some of the oldest UK liquid manufacturers like Vampire Vape started filling their online retail with hundreds of these things. If they are banned, then I won't have much sympathy. It's all largely been self-inflicted driven by greed... so you know, fuck 'em. I tried and I still believe that if companies like Vampire Vape, Dinner Lady and some of the other big UK names at the time made a stand, educated their customers and potential customers, did social media campaigns across facebook and the like that they wouldn't have even got the massive over saturation and exposure that they did and we wouldn't facing a vape related ban. But they were just like 'nah, mate.. this is gonna be a fucking goldmine for a few years' and they were right, but it wasn't going to last forever and it seems that time has come. There's just too many issues with them for not to get banned eventually, it was probably inevitable.

I agree don’t get me wrong the product is bad however it’s a product it does the same job as a normal mod it’s s bad design no doubt but the problem is also the image, money aside a ban will put a huge spotlight on vaping as worse than smoking

the press are already screaming illegal deadly vapes in shops with 10mils of liquid in them even though the amount of juice makes no difference

this area of banning will just open the gates at the minimum it will divide people into two groups as this thread has done then it will open the doors to why not ban all vaping

people think a ban will solve the problem It won’t

china doesn’t go backwards in technology it won’t just roll back 4 years to tanks and mods

edit

rereading this post I come across as pro disposables I’m not. From a business point it will increase sales for me however I’m more worried about the “what next”

 

[Netvaper]

Here's another take on it that basically says it is an easy knee jerk reaction.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/13/vaping-ban-is-our-trivial-mindless-elite-at-its-worst/

 

[zouzounaki]

I agree don’t get me wrong the product is bad however it’s a product it does the same job as a normal mod it’s s bad design no doubt but the problem is also the image, money aside a ban will put a huge spotlight on vaping as worse than smoking

the press are already screaming illegal deadly vapes in shops with 10mils of liquid in them even though the amount of juice makes no difference

this area of banning will just open the gates at the minimum it will divide people into two groups as this thread has done then it will open the doors to why not ban all vaping

people think a ban will solve the problem It won’t

china doesn’t go backwards in technology it won’t just roll back 4 years to tanks and mods

edit

rereading this post I come across as pro disposables I’m not. From a business point it will increase sales for me however I’m more worried about the “what next”

i think the opposite is actually the case. disposables are getting huge negative attention at the moment. but any official pronouncements are generally specific to the issues around disposables and often caveated with the concession that vapes are positive in general and valuable for people who want to stop smoking.

but the longer this carries on, the more that negativity will start to spread and permeate the whole thing, and that’s what will lead to more restrictive stuff coming into the discussion imo.

 

[zouzounaki]

Here's another take on it that basically says it is an easy knee jerk reaction.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/09/13/vaping-ban-is-our-trivial-mindless-elite-at-its-worst/

well aye, she would say that though, wouldn’t she?

 

[Netvaper]

well aye, she would say that though, wouldn’t she?

No idea, don't know who she is.

 

[vapervince]

I reckon this issue will be kicked up and down the street a couple of times before being kicked into the long grass, there are already rumblings of the "smoke free by 2030" target being unrealistic by some (un named atm) ministers.

 

[zouzounaki]

I reckon this issue will be kicked up and down the street a couple of times before being kicked into the long grass

just like the broken plastic tubes and loose batteries lying on the pavement outside my house?