Vape Tax.. we all knew it was coming

[MarylinC37]

Someone needs to invent an alternative to VG that has the same properties and thickness but doesn't produce any visible vapour. Then we can vape away in secret and avoid all the grief from the anti smoking brigade.

 

[John R Phillips]

By the King reading the statement prepared for him by his government it has given them carte blanche to propose any legislation they see fit within it. The man in the street mostly thinks that vaping is another form of smoking anyway so the amount of people willing to stand up and make any sort of fuss over vaping must be tiny, i.e. not enough to affect the vote in a general election, I`m not saying that you shouldn`t stand up for your rights, but I personally think that the govt will lay it out to suit themselves and that`s the way it will be.

Sadly, you are probably largely correct
It was done because that’s what the public want to hear.
It’s quite depressing to think that the UK already has the legislation in place to stop kids vaping & smoking, but it’s just not applied.
Raising the age year on year is laudable but laughable. No one, and I mean absolutely no one, wakes up on their 18th birthday and decides to trot down to the local 7-11 and buy their first packet of smokes. They may trot down there to buy their first pack legally, but they have already been smoking for the last 2, 3, 4, 5 years.
If retail had applied due diligence (and had it enforced by the likes of Trading Standards) we likely wouldn’t be in the mess we are today.

 

[MarylinC37]

The whole thing is about appearance anyway because the politicians want to look good.

They've never won the war on drugs. It just got driven underground and they'll end up with smoking and vaping going the same way.

 

[30deadcats]

Valid point. I read some of the comments on the BBC News report yesterday. A goodly number of non-smokers/anti vapours were voicing their support of pretty much a total ban. Popcorn lung raised its head and one anti suggested most disposable users live in squalor in and around inner city ghettos!
Really, you couldn’t make it up

That sounds like yer typical Tory voter.

 

[DMAN]

Someone needs to invent an alternative to VG that has the same properties and thickness but doesn't produce any visible vapour. Then we can vape away in secret and avoid all the grief from the anti smoking brigade.

Why re-invent the wheel? VG will always be on sale. All the blue rinse Tories would be up in arms at an attack on their cake baking!

 

[vapervince]

If the govt had taken the blindest bit of notice when single use vapes had fallen in with nos, weed and alchopops with the underage users and used the existing trading standards set up to intervene, we may never have found vaping under such a perceived threat, it`s very difficult trying to put the genie back in the bottle.

 

[Deleted member 54254]

I propose a ban on soapboxes, anything to stop these fuckwits having a platform to spout their shite from.

 

[vapesmarter]

Banning nicotine hasn't happened anywhere if cigarettes containing it are still on sale.

It's only now 6 years to smokefree 2030 so the year on year increase in the legal age to buy cigarettes ain't going to do much for that.

a simple search on google

47 countries have banned e-cigs
8 countries have banned nicotine

Majority of the countries still sell tobacco

my answer to the comments on this thread was how to destroy the vaping industry the weakest spot is nicotine

in regards to the uk government going smoke free by 2030 that’s a pledge not a law

the law was spoken by the king yesterday and he made it quite clear a ban will happen in the uk in some shape or form

I have a whole business to look forwards to losing because of this do you think I’m not waking up panicking every day at the moment

 

[Netvaper]

a simple search on google

47 countries have banned e-cigs
8 countries have banned nicotine

Majority of the countries still sell tobacco

my answer to the comments on this thread was how to destroy the vaping industry the weakest spot is nicotine

in regards to the uk government going smoke free by 2030 that’s a pledge not a law

the law was spoken by the king yesterday and he made it quite clear a ban will happen in the uk in some shape or form

I have a whole business to look forwards to losing because of this do you think I’m not waking up panicking every day at the moment

My point is if cigarettes are available then so is nicotine so they are specifically legislating against vaping. Any country that bans vaping yet still allows cigarettes to be sold ain't doing it for the sake of their citizens' health.

The monarch merely says what the government is planning to introduce legislation on and until it is introduced it isn't law. I think they refer to Smokefree 2030 as an ambition, rather like what a political party says in their manifesto.

I'm quite sure anyone who make their living from vaping will be concerned with what legislation imposing vaping restrictions/bans is introduced. I completed their consultation document and opposed just about everything in it for all the good it will do as imo such things are largely little more than smoke and mirrors.

 

[Reti]

So what are the short term risks of nicotine? As people have been smoking for a very long time it strikes me we know it isn't the problem certain people wish to say it is.

Vaping hasn't been around long enough to ascertain what the long term effects of it are so in the meantime it is unscientific to speculate on them and use that to regulate it.

Short term risks of nicotine:

-Shortness of breath
-Reduction in sense of taste and smell
-Fatigue and decrease in energy
-Blood pressure changes
-Increase in heart rate
-Blood vessel constriction

These are just from a quick Google search.